Bands which should be included on Progarc

ozzy tom,

This belongs in the Suggest New Bands/Artists section.

If such bands are simply discussed, under a collective topic, instead of presented and suggested separately (with a clear mention in which genre they should go), our work, as Collaborators, will be very hard, if not impossible.

seamus wrote: PATTO should be on ProgArchives! No one here know them?....they are a FANTASTIC jazz-rock band and i think that "PATTO" & "HOLD YOUR FIRE",their first two albums,are two BEAUTIFUL GEMS made in music! http://www.pattofan.com/

Patto have been discussed in the past, but I don't know how the whole thing ended - I remember some people entertaining doubts about how really prog they were.

However, you should remember that using capitals is usually considered bad form on the Web, since it is akin to shouting.

proggy wrote: HOW ABOUT DAVID BOWIE...................................

David Bowie was never part of the Progressive Rock movement and his music never resembled anything associated with prog.

Even If he WAS influenced, however much, by progressive rock, influence of a music does not qualify another music to be put in the same category.

David Bowie should not be included, his music may be great whatever your opinion is, but he is not and never was a progressive rock musician.

Hansson & Karlsson will be added by Micky when he gets a new Internet connection, which should be very soon. He was about to add them when I was still in the USA with him, but then he got sidetracked by more serious matters. I'll remind him to go ahead with the addition when his connection is operative.

One of the main reasons to support an addition of Random Deeds and Combination Head on Prog Archives is that lots of progrock friends who listen to their music at my home are very pleased and sometimes delighted about these bands. In my opinion both bands match with the new category Crossover Prog, perhaps the team will trust my judgement and let me work on an addition, it's just a proposal because I have the idea that the categorizing of the bands take so much time that it harms the addition policy. One more example: last month I started to contact fellow collabroators and team members about an addition of Cozy Powell, in the end I was waiting and waiting ... no final reactions so I have stopped to put energy in adding Cozy Powell.

Edited by erik neuteboom - September 08 2007 at 12:21

Well Ghost Rider, I must have missed something if you say "I told you time and again about Cozy Powell" (I once read in a thread that you and Micky are positive about it) but for me the problem was that I contacted a few times Dick Heath about Cozy Powell and also one other member of the jazz rock/fusion team (I have forgotten who) but in the end the communication simply stopped and I have stopped to put so much extra time in adding bands, I prefer to focus on my Recommendation section threads, that's a more satisfying way of communication for me, I don't want to be frustrated and leave PA for a third time

MajesterX wrote: David Bowie was never part of the Progressive Rock movement and his music never resembled anything associated with prog.

Untrue. The epic "Cygnet Committee", from Bowie's first 'proper' solo album, very strongly resembles something associated with prog. You could say similar things about other early Bowie stuff, such as "The width of a circle".

In my opinion, Bowie is ALMOST as proggy as Roxy Music and therefore he certainly belongs here, but the Powers that Be seem to have decided differently, and I see no need to kick up a fuss, 'cause you don't exactly need Progarchives to find out more about Bowie...

Edited by fuxi - September 08 2007 at 13:09

There are many Zeuhl and Avant Prog bands I know of, as do others, which have not been included in the archives (can find some of them mentioned in their respective threads and under consideration at the progtology link, oops EDIT, I meant ratingfreak, got those sited mixed up in my head -- not that it matters now since the discussion has evolved and so this post feels rather redundant and I hate to break up/ interrupt discussion).

Super Freego (Zeuhl)
Paga (Zeuhl)
Noa (Zeuhl)
Seffer Yochk'o (Zeuhl)

Avant Prog or Zeuhl for some cases

Yog Sothoth
ZNR
Ripaille
Pascal Duffard
Non Credo
ZNR
Patrick Gauthier

And lots more (in a rush), but those are some that I've been listening to the most over the last months.  Maybe some are already here and some are approved but the bios have to be written.  All are excellent, and this site would benefit from the inclusion.  Thanks to some members for turning me on to some of these bands.

Incidentally, I've been wanting to start a similar thread as this one for some time, not to suggest bands for inclusion so much (as there are other resources where one can find info on a  great deal of Zeuhl and Avant Prog bands not yet included in the archives, so it's not that important to me that they be here too), but as a recommendation discussion threads for people interested in bands under the Prog umbrella not included here.  Links to samples do help of course.

There are a great many suitable bands not included in the archives (both old and new), but of course there is so only so much time and resources that the site's staff can put in to the inclusion endeavor.  Some albums are quite rare.

Definitely, as Ivan noted, a good idea to mention those bands in the respective category threads.

As for Bowie, I would have thought he warranted inclusion on this site, but I think that there are many other bands/artists which have stronger cases.  He is progressive, but not particularly Prog (whatever that means) -- not neatly pigeonholed, but an Art Rock artist.

Perhaps more special collabs are warranted to deal with the backlog.  Rocktopus, Yukorin, and Laplace (excellent reviewer), for example, and RileyDog, would all be a boon to the site in this capacity (but might not have time to devote to such an undertaking) I know there are more names I'm forgetting -- very knowledgeable people (with great taste to boot -- subjectively speaking, of course).   I think it's amazing that the staff here do so much work, but they may be overworked.  This hobby shouldn't interfere with one's work, family, and social life, but I'm sure it does.  And of course everyone can help by suggesting bands and writing bios.  I wouldn't mind doing one of these once they make it in (though time and brain cells are limited).


Edited by Logan - September 08 2007 at 14:44