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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2007 at 12:58
Finally got into RPI. Acquired Per Un Amico, Storia di un Minuto, L'Isola di niente, as well as Darwin!, Le Orme's Felona and Baletto's Ys. All of them: Shocked


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2007 at 13:20
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

Finally got into RPI. Acquired Per Un Amico, Storia di un Minuto, L'Isola di niente, as well as Darwin!, Le Orme's Felona and Baletto's Ys. All of them: Shocked


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This stuff sure is addictive isn't it?  IMO PFM, Banco, Le Orme, and Area belong with the most popular English bands from the 70s, soon you'll find that RPI is the deepest kind of prog rock...the amount of quality music that came from Italy in the early-mid 70s is overwhelmingConfusedApprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2007 at 13:24
I really don't see the point in separating Italy from the rest of symphonic prog. I know it cuts down on scrolling b/c symphonic would be huge, but PFM, Banco, Il Balletto di Bronzo, and Le Orme can go toe to toe with British giants any day of the week. The only difference is that RPI is a lot more emotional, or is that just me?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2007 at 13:30
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

I really don't see the point in separating Italy from the rest of symphonic prog. I know it cuts down on scrolling b/c symphonic would be huge, but PFM, Banco, Il Balletto di Bronzo, and Le Orme can go toe to toe with British giants any day of the week. The only difference is that RPI is a lot more emotional, or is that just me?
There was a very long discussion about this some time back (before I was here)...and I think the main argument for the seperation of RPI was that this scene was very much influenced by Italian culture and tradition...enough to give it a different style than the rest of the world.  Someone posted a very interesting article about this, I'll find the link in a minute....
 
Andrea, micky, and mandy can surely give a cleary explaination than I though...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2007 at 13:33
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33377
a very interesting, well-written article by prog-reviewer Andrea ParentinClap

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2007 at 13:39
Well-written indeed. I have no issue with the separation, and I do find PFM and the rest to be much more classically influenced. For instance, I listened to Darwin! and Ys as if they were operas (the fact they were in italian helped, cause I know little about opera), because they were mixed classical music with emotion, which is what I hear when I listen to opera.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2007 at 06:22
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

By "poppy" albums I meant the mid-70's period (ie Smogmagica and Storia o Leggenda)...I've heard bits of them and they don't seem all that bad.  Nevertheless, I'll wait until I have most of their catalogue before I go for the pop stuff.

What are your thoughts about Il Fiume?  I've read good and bad reviews about it so it must have something controversial.


"Il Fiume"? For me good. More neighbor to the Asia of Aria.  Nevertheless big album.  To my warning totally Prog.  Besides it is one of their better discs of Le Oeme, above all in concert. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2007 at 18:23
Another three RPI review:

LA TORRE DELL ALCHIMISTA

La Torre Dell'Alchimista

(Studio Album, 2001)
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3%20stars When you listen to the opening number, the sound of ELP fully surrounds you. Maybe this is something one wouldn't expect from an Italian band but I have to say that it sounds really pleasant. These keys are superb, but it will be so during the whole of this album. A true symphonic one (just a bit ojazzy during "Acquario").

But it is not only Michele who is great; all the other band members are on par. Very nice fluting, complex drumming, strong bass and good vocals. Maybe that the guitar is a bit in the shadow; but you won't miss it.

There are no real outstanding tracks on this album; it is the type of record that you need to listen to as a whole because there are no weak tracks either. The album is of course fully dominated by Mutti Michele : a real maestro this guy.

Lots of nice and melodic passages, short format songs for the majority (except "Acquario" ) which gives the sensation of a varied album. There will be a classical number to highlight Michele skills which is probably useless.

Besides "Eclisse", my fave is "Lo Gnomo" : violent keys and tranquil flute afterwards. Almost folkish at times.

This is a good debut album, maybe lacking in some grandeur and brilliant compositions. Three stars.

PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM)

Chocolate Kings

(Studio Album, 1975)
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Review by aqualung71 (Javier Estrémé)

5%20stars Is brilliant, they are released two albums in english three whit this. But this is not a reedition of any album in Italian. Is almost Genesis, jazzy feel like Yes and Focus a little of King Krimson but after all is very particular, the voice is like Peter Gabriel but most finest. Have exelent guitar work and the keyboards have an great job. Is fast, this album is very fast and the album title "Chocolate Kings" is weird. In my opinion this album worth, not only are the third job in english because is very pleasant. Really worth five stars

PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM)

Photos Of Ghosts

(Studio Album, 1973)
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Review by Tarcisio Moura (Tarcísio B. Moura)

4%20stars With apologies to the ones who think the original italian version is better, I must say i do prefer the english one. The main reason is that recording sound is far lower than this one. Ok, I love italian and I think it´s more suited to the music than english, but it works anyway. Besides, the italian version did not have their biggest hit, Celebration. That song is one of italy´s best exemple of a truly prog song that has an unmistakeable national mark.

Nevertheless, Photos Of Ghosts does not have the same impact as The World Became The World. I think it´s a little ragged at times and some songs do not work very well together. Make no mistake, none is crap and the good ones are excellent, like the opening River Of Life. Those guys are brilliant muscians and their work is, deserverly, considered italy´s best in the 70´s.

This is in my opinion PFM´s second best after The World Became The World, and a must have for any prog fan.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2007 at 13:24
My last review:

GOBLIN

Claudio Simonetti Compilation (Profondo Rosso)

(Boxset/Compilation, 1999)
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5%20stars My review is produced using this release: D.V. MORE RECORD MCDV 6398

Rating: 9/10

If you love Goblin, Claudio Simonetti, the O.S.T. and Symphonic Prog Metal this compilation is for you. All this ingredients are here. Because Claudio Simonetti decides to re-arrange some success played by he. And the music becomes Symphonic Prog Metal (except in "TGamma", good Jazzy POP song and in "Twin Peaks" clear Vangelis Electronic Ambient Longue music with Rock part). In this sense this compilation are extreme fresh and convincent. The sole real problem is represented from the label of this release. In fact D.V. More Recond is a small label that produces good budget compilation. And I don't know that distribution have abroad. In Italy is distributed in the departement stores. In every case we return in musical field. The songs are great in these new versions. In my opinion this compilation should have greater spread because the songs excite, ooze anger and horror. Simonetti plays like possessed by Satan and the atmospheres of the songs materialize upsets before our eyes.

Upsetting. After the listening Satan will be your sole god. Welcomes to the Universal Judgment! If succeeded gained this compilation to eyes closed. To regret for the not purchase means to cry for the despair.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2007 at 20:52
Another Finnforest review:

MINDFLOWER

Mindfloater

(Studio Album, 2001)
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— First review of this album —

4%20stars Little known modern day Italian gem.

Mindflower is an Italian band with English-language lyrics featuring Fabio Antonelli on guitar, Fabrizio Defacqz on keys and vocals, Alberto Callegari on bass, Micaela Gotelli, vocals, and Corrado Bertonazzi on drums. This album blew my mind because I wasn’t expecting much as there were no reviews on the Archives, now I wonder how that could be! Stylistically the band visits many avenues. There is traditional prog along with neo-prog, rock sections, and pastoral gentle soundscapes. While they have their own unique sound, if I had to make comparisons to some others I would mention Renaissance, Genesis, Magic Pie, Galahad, and early Ragnarok (Sweden). But they are not a clone of anyone, trust me.

The music is really unique sounding, magical, spacious, and intriguing. There are long gentle acoustic interludes, passages with acoustic guitar and piano together, with soft dreamy vocals. There are sections that are quite rocking, with heavy distortion laden guitars chugging away to nice heavy bass and good inspired drumming. I love the occasional use of strange, less common chords. There are smartly employed keyboards which add color and texture without taking over the sound. All of the musicians are very good players who are tasteful without being overly flashy, though the drummer does occasionally awe me with some great fills. Most importantly is a complete lack of respect for formula and convention-bravo! They throw everything at you in a really intimate, patient manner. You never know what to expect from the next part and it’s always going to change to something interesting. Some people will say this means lack of focus or consistency, I say it’s people brimming with so many ideas they can’t contain themselves, and I find it really charming on this particular album. This is one album where time just flies by very fast when I play it meaning that it never bores me.

The five part “Magic Riddle Suite” clocks in around 20 minutes and takes up the middle part of the album. The piece is a musical fairy tale that is as grandiose and delightful as you hope it might be, weaving together waves of soft acoustic guitars, vocals, piano that build up to rocking parts with electric guitar, synths, and drums. They really conjure up a world you can kick back and get lost in, in the finest tradition of the long-winded prog epics.

Addressing some problems, a reviewer at a different prog site complained that the vocals on Mindfloater were somewhat poor but I don’t agree. I think at first listen they may seem average and not as commanding/dramatic as other bands, perhaps too hesitant. But after many listens I have ended up growing quite fond of the vocals, the male vocals occasionally remind me of early Gabriel and the female vocals are fragile and sweet. Second, there is something weird about the production on this one. The electric guitars sound over-saturated in places like the recording level was a bit high so I have to listen on a good system or they can distort a little. But like I said I’ve already fallen for this music so these issues don’t spoil it for me.

The closing track “In a Lightbox” is another delicious track. The drumming is off on its own as a solo instrument, off in the background doing a rhythmic ambient thing. Gentle synths are welling up before a melodic line creeps slowly into the picture around 3 minutes. Then Micaela gently sings “Gimme your hand…don’t leave me alone…I feel like a dead stone…I wanna be alive…” and the pastoral ending fades away. After listening to this album, I want to play it again and listen for things I might have missed. Be sure to give it a few spins before forming an opinion, it’s an esoteric beauty that may not make itself apparent to you at first.

Their CD booklet and artwork are delightfully whimsical, a style which appeals to me very much. Both high-minded and childlike the drawings feature peaceful countryside views with vibrant other-worldly colors. All of the starry-eyed lyrics are also included featuring stories of Gnome elders, magic, yearning, and the eternal quest for that better place just beyond the hill. Recommended for hopeless romantics, fairy-tale/fantasy prog fans and whimsy fans of all ages. What I appreciate most about this album is that I don’t have anything else quite like it and that makes it special.

More Mindflower is coming in the future I’ve been assured, so do check out their two albums and Fabio Antonelli’s solo album “The Art of Dreams in a Little Bottle.” I can’t wait to hear where they go in the future


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 13:04
This is my enthusiastic review of

GOBLIN

Claudio Simonetti Compilation (Profondo Rosso)

(Boxset/Compilation, 1999)
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that I recommended because when the music is great... When the music is universal...
 
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5%20stars In truth this isn't a Goblin compilation but a great Claudio Simonetti's best with the songs in new version. Extreme good, this budget compilation is one of the obscure masterpiece of these last years. And I don't speak for nothing. Simonetti is one of the more prolific hit writers in Italy. In my opinion the Prog Metal turn performed in 90's transformed normal songs in exceptional songs. "non Ho Sonno" by Goblin is a great example. But this budget compilation is the second great example.

In my opinion the best songs are "Phenomena", "Profondo Rosso" (great solo with synth guitar), "1997: Fuga Da New York" (With first part Disco... Metal!!!, female voice, drum machine and great Prog synths), "Halloween" (this Ambient Disco Metal!!!), "Opera", "Tubular Bells" (the new version of "The Exorcist [O.S.T.] version), "Gamma", "Twin Peaks" (a very Vangelis Ambient song) and "Death Dies". All this songs are extreme fresh, thechnical and powerful (terribly powerful!!!).

And the weird songs... Where we find them? In my opinion in this compilation we find only songs little succeeded. "Suspiria" is one of these, "Zombie Zone" another of these. But in my opinion in this compilation we don't find weird songs.

In conclusion I think that this compilation is a very great compilation. Because if this compilation was exit from Cinevox this compilation would have sold millions of copies and won a lot of prizes. Vice versa is only a budget compilation...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 13:21
Very good reviews guys, i just want to let you know that i just added Mauro Pelosi to RPI
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 13:24
Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Very good reviews guys, i just want to let you know that i just added Mauro Pelosi to RPI
 
Soon i will finish his album´s additions and write a review.


Great, great, great, great!!! (Hansi Kursh of Blind Guardian is a sh*t but great voice, eh, eh...).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2007 at 03:23
Ok, so I came to this thread looking for something new. I am a BMS, Le Orme, PFM, Area, DFA, YS fan and owner (I have an Osanna album too, not as into).  After looking through the lists and reading some of the posts here, I narrowed my choices down to LOCANDA DELLE FATE and Maxophone.  I have decided on Maxophone based on the one clip of each I was able to hear. 
 
I have a question regarding the album. I have heard the PFM English tranlated versions of some of their stuff.  Dead I notice that there is an English version of Maxophone. I don't intend to buy that version, I was just curious if any of you had heard it and is it as unattractive as I found English PFM?
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OK fine! I'll by The Watch too.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2007 at 11:18
And if you want more free advice, QVL and Alusa Fallax are awesome, if lesser known, choices!  Good luckSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2007 at 11:38
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Ok, so I came to this thread looking for something new. I am a BMS, Le Orme, PFM, Area, DFA, YS fan and owner (I have an Osanna album too, not as into).  After looking through the lists and reading some of the posts here, I narrowed my choices down to LOCANDA DELLE FATE and Maxophone.  I have decided on Maxophone based on the one clip of each I was able to hear. 
 
I have a question regarding the album. I have heard the PFM English tranlated versions of some of their stuff.  Dead I notice that there is an English version of Maxophone. I don't intend to buy that version, I was just curious if any of you had heard it and is it as unattractive as I found English PFM?


Englush PFM unattractive? For me the English albums of PFM are between the better things of the Italian Prog...!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2007 at 11:42
Well... For a recommendations of Italian live albums, Tapfret, see this thread:  The RPI (and related) live reviews special
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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Ok, so I came to this thread looking for something new. I am a BMS, Le Orme, PFM, Area, DFA, YS fan and owner (I have an Osanna album too, not as into).  After looking through the lists and reading some of the posts here, I narrowed my choices down to LOCANDA DELLE FATE and Maxophone.  I have decided on Maxophone based on the one clip of each I was able to hear. 
 
I have a question regarding the album. I have heard the PFM English tranlated versions of some of their stuff.  Dead I notice that there is an English version of Maxophone. I don't intend to buy that version, I was just curious if any of you had heard it and is it as unattractive as I found English PFM?


Englush PFM unattractive? For me the English albums of PFM are between the better things of the Italian Prog...!!!
 
Wow, first time I've ever heard anybody say that.  Call me an elitist (or purest or some other est), but when I buy Italiano, I want to hear Italiano.  Big%20smile 
 
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