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Phideaux
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 378 |
Topic: Phideaux attacks! Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:16 |
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ahhh, well i'll edit it out right away. sorry.
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: September 03 2007 at 14:53 | |
One thing please Phideaux....it is against forum rules and guidelines to post the contents of PM's in the public forums.
So please refrain from doing that in the future,but thanks for coming back in this thread to try to clear things up.
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Phideaux
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 378 |
Posted: September 03 2007 at 14:40 | |
BTW: that is a very good album title "Phideaux Attacks". I hope you won't mind if we use it some day. I'll be happy to give credit where credit's due!
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Phideaux
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 378 |
Posted: September 03 2007 at 14:37 | |
EDIT (PREVIOUS POST REMOVED):
Ahhh, another faux pas... posting the correspondence between myself and the lovely Ooots. (it has been removed!) At any rate, I will assure the readers that everything is now squared away between myself and Oots. I would like to think we are lovely mates now. The attack wasn't really an attack as much as a slightly snarky welcome and allusion to the faint possibility that Oots had joined the site for the express purpose of trashing the album. There was even a thought in my mind that Oots hadn't heard the album but was a mischief maker. Upon reading Oots' second review -- which is truly quite in depth and precise -- I realized that Oots was really just a disappointed consumer and was honestly trying to save others from the mistake he/she made. Since that day, Oots has also reviewed other albums. At the time of my attack (aka correspondence) Oots had only ever reviewed one single album on the site. Oots, of course, was offered a full refund for the album (I know how disappointing it is to buy an album that everyone is raving about -- only to discover the Emperor's clothes are naught). So, hopefully no hard feelings and DEFINITELY no worries that we/I are trying to modify opinion about our works. Edited by Phideaux - September 03 2007 at 15:26 |
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sircosick
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 29 2007 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1264 |
Posted: August 30 2007 at 22:37 | |
I remember when a Phideaux dude joined the site about a week ago and I was very astonished when I saw his profile..... Obviously, my first impression of it: "he's a fanboy", but probably not...... how could we know?
And I'm even more astonished when I read the first post here..... about the attacks. Indeed it's a shame, but it's also very curious and, from certain point of view, a bit funny. I'm expecting anxiously the result of Progto's investigation of the affair, though. |
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Atkingani
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: August 30 2007 at 21:33 | |
I'll second that! Edited by Atkingani - August 30 2007 at 21:48 |
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: August 30 2007 at 15:53 | |
That's better.
While I don't entirely agree with your views on the album,which I think is pretty good,your review explaining why you didn't care for it was much better this time around.
Thanks for being civil and mature about this whole affair.
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21206 |
Posted: August 30 2007 at 11:54 | |
^ I read the review ... I know what you're talking about (I'm a musician myself), but I don't think that the kind of innovation you're looking for is *that* important for the rating. I only listened to the album once and gave it 9.2 on my website (marked "first listen") ... I think that the album will drop a little bit on further listens (most albums do) but I doubt that it will drop below 8.0, which would make it a solid 4 star album.
Still, nothing wrong with your 2 stars! |
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Ootsandnoots
Forum Newbie Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
Posted: August 30 2007 at 10:05 | |
Here's the link though: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=135448
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Ootsandnoots
Forum Newbie Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
Posted: August 30 2007 at 10:03 | |
I just finished my review and added it in. It's pretty long so I won't copy it here.
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 17:00 | |
No review would ever be deleted simply because an artist did not like what had been said. A site rule would need to have been broken. What does seem odd in this case is that this was the only album you have so far reviewed Ootsandoots. Nothing wrong with that, but it does seem an odd choice. As has been suggested, try re-posting the review. It is good to get a cross section of reviews, especially for an album which appears to be subject to some hyping.
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Angelo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 15:58 | |
Looking forward to it. I think I remember your review - it indeed only contained a remark that you didn't understand why this album got 5 star ratings and that you didn't like it. I would be curious to know - also because I haven't heard the album yet and would like to see honest opinions before I check it out. Angelo |
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Prog-jester
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5872 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 15:42 | |
Some weeks ago a got a review from a manager/keyboard player of a certain band. He accused me in downloading their music via illegal sites (proofs, please!) and then one of the albums I've written review on was deleted (it was a bootleg actually). The stupidest thing is that this guy gave 1-star ratings to the band he said he's a manager of!!! The more frightening thing that he REALLY is!!!
btw, this band ceased to exist recently... |
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Ootsandnoots
Forum Newbie Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:42 | |
OK, I will try to rewrite my review tonight- I'll really go into detail about the album.
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:10 | |
That is exactly why I want to see the PM that was sent to him.
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1800iareyay
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2492 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:10 | |
To be fair, your review did deserve to be removed. It was only a two or three sentences about how you didn't like it, yet you explained nothing. The only thing that makes your case unique is the PM you got.
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Atkingani
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:06 | |
The review probably was deleted 'cause some guideline was broken. Anyway, there's still room for another try, why not?
I'm quite sure that it wasn't Phideaux who wrote to you. The few times artists did it they use their press people or the label's press people and generally they are concerned about illegal copies, unoficcial bootlegs, leaks, etc. They go directly to the site owners and rarely to the Admin Team.
Be sure that some Phideaux fanatic did it which is a serious issue 'cause he cannot use the artist's name this way.
EDIT: if in any moment any honest review, no matter the rating, was changed by artist's request I'll be the first to leave this site. BUT I'M TOTALLY SURE IT'LL NOT HAPPEN... Edited by Atkingani - August 29 2007 at 12:11 |
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Speesh
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 21 2006 Location: NJ / VT Status: Offline Points: 435 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:03 | |
That's odd, hopefully someone can clarify. I kind of remember reading the review and while I didn't agree, I'm pretty sure I've seen much worse reviews that weren't nuked. Maybe try again and instead of making it short, be more descriptive about what you didn't like?
Personally I was underwhelmed by Doomsday the first few times I heard it a few weeks ago, but it has really been growing on me. I absolutely adore it now as well as everything else in his catalog (though a good portion of it lacks prog elements). Anyway I suggest giving it another chance if you haven't already, it doesn't seem like a grower at first but it really is. |
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 11:54 | |
I seriously,seriously doubt that it was him(the real Phideaux).
Would you mind sending me the PM because I want to look into this. Edited by TheProgtologist - August 29 2007 at 11:55 |
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Ootsandnoots
Forum Newbie Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
Posted: August 29 2007 at 11:49 | |
OK- sorry. The message he sent made me think that's what happened, but I don't know for sure. I just remember the review was there yesterday and was gone today, and the artist seemed to be boasting about that. I don't know why it was removed.
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