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StyLaZyn wrote: NaturalScience wrote: Re: Test For Echo, I played the hell out of that when I first got it (to the annoyance of my college roommates at the time ), but I don't feel like it's stood the test of time.  Maybe I'll give it another spin sometime soon and see (haven't listened to it in years).  I will say that "Driven" remains the standout for me, love that track and especially love the performance of it on Different Stages.  The title track is also great, too. Don't slam me for this. TFE is some great Rush song put to poor lyrics. It's as if Neil's head wasn't into it, but then again, it was a tough period for him. It has so many musical high lights but they are countered with less than typical weak lyrics. I did feel there was Progressiveness in it as well. Time and Motion, one of my all-time Rush faves, is a definite Progressive song.

One of the biggest surprises I took away from last week's show is how well the new stuff holds up against the other material. I thought is sounded amazing (especially "The Main Monkey Business"). The second set after intermission started off with a good 4 or 5 songs from the new album, which was fine by me. "Far Cry" was a real killer live.

If they do another DVD, I'll get it.

E

Melomaniac wrote: E-Dub wrote: Not exactly directed towards you, Big Man. Just saying in general. Hell, even during a phone conversation with a buddy last week he expressed his distaste for it. I understood your position perfectly. E Oh, that's clearer Eric, thanks !   It is true that it sometimes gets generally bashed (harsh word, T4E and RTB get bashed, but not HYF) unjustifiably.  I think the 2 I mentioned somewhat deserve the bashing, even though there are great songs on each (Dreamline, Bravado, Where's My thing and Ghost of a Chance from RTB, T4E, Driven, Time and Motion, Limbo from T4E).

Roll The Bones is still a favorite of mine. I think from top to bottom it's a solid effort with some curves thrown in. I need to listen to that one again.

E

rushfan4 wrote: Melomaniac wrote: rushfan4 wrote: I think that this set list may have been formulated for them to release a new concert DVD for which the fans will have to run out and buy again, because they won't be able to say they already have those songs on video.   I'll be buying it if it comes out.  The near entirety of S&A played live ?  You bet I want to have it !   Speaking of S&A, besides the instrumentals, my favorite is Armour and Sword.  The most proggy song (with lyrics) on the record in my opinion, nice vocal melodies and harmonies, I love every little thing about this song.   My comment was both truthful and sarcastic.  I saw on one of the threads somewhere somebody bashing Rush for releasing so many videos (probably Schizoid Man, but not positive).  I will most certainly be getting any new DVD release with this tour also.    For me, there are so many good songs on S&A it is difficult to choose a favorite.  My word, 3 instrumentals on one Rush album (non-live).  I would agree that Armour and Sword is probably the most proggy, and best song with lyrics on the album.  I know that I am not supposed to like Far Cry because it is "the single", but I do.  The promo at the concert said that Far Cry was on the playlist at about 140 different radio stations nationwide.  Personally, I have never actually heard it on the radio, but then again, I hardly ever listen to the radio, so if radio stations are playing it, then maybe there is hope.  The live show opened my eyes (ears?) to The Larger Bowl, The Way the Wind Blows and Good News First.  All are excellent songs.

Melomaniac wrote: Melomaniac wrote:   I'd like to know your opinions on Victor (Lifeson's solo effort) and Geddy Lee's Favorite Headache.  Personally I love them both.  I think Geddy's choice of musicians (Soundgarden's Matt Cameron on drums and Ben Mink on guitars, violin and songwriting) was excellent, and he also wrot some great lyrics ; I wouldn't mind him writing a few for Rush.    Victor's album was very good.  Some interesting experimentations in there, great songwriting and musical execution from everyone involved.  Dalbello's voice in "Start Today" amazes me every time I hear it.   Actually, I wouldn't mind if they decided to throw one song from each of these two albums in Rush's live set.  Because, let's face it, some of these songs (or maybe riffs) would have been on a Rush album had nothing happened to Neil during this time.  My choices ?  My Favorite Headache from Geddy's album and Promise from Victor.   What about you ?   Sorry to quote myself, but I'd really like your opinions on this one.

Melomaniac wrote:   I'd like to know your opinions on Victor (Lifeson's solo effort) and Geddy Lee's Favorite Headache.  Personally I love them both.  I think Geddy's choice of musicians (Soundgarden's Matt Cameron on drums and Ben Mink on guitars, violin and songwriting) was excellent, and he also wrot some great lyrics ; I wouldn't mind him writing a few for Rush.    Victor's album was very good.  Some interesting experimentations in there, great songwriting and musical execution from everyone involved.  Dalbello's voice in "Start Today" amazes me every time I hear it.   Actually, I wouldn't mind if they decided to throw one song from each of these two albums in Rush's live set.  Because, let's face it, some of these songs (or maybe riffs) would have been on a Rush album had nothing happened to Neil during this time.  My choices ?  My Favorite Headache from Geddy's album and Promise from Victor.   What about you ?

NaturalScience wrote: Re: Test For Echo, I played the hell out of that when I first got it (to the annoyance of my college roommates at the time ), but I don't feel like it's stood the test of time.  Maybe I'll give it another spin sometime soon and see (haven't listened to it in years).  I will say that "Driven" remains the standout for me, love that track and especially love the performance of it on Different Stages.  The title track is also great, too.

Don't slam me for this. TFE is some great Rush song put to poor lyrics. It's as if Neil's head wasn't into it, but then again, it was a tough period for him.

It has so many musical high lights but they are countered with less than typical weak lyrics.

I did feel there was Progressiveness in it as well. Time and Motion, one of my all-time Rush faves, is a definite Progressive song.

"Time Stand Still" is one of best songs Rush have ever recorded. It's got an impressive structure, a sort of constant "crescendo" from its almost shy beginning to its epic ending - underlined also by a growing complexity in Peart and Lee's rhythmic patterns. The melody is simply moving, as well as the lyrics. Does it sound poppish? I really don't care. Do you really think it's so easy to write a good pop song?

Hold Your Fire was the one Rush CD it took me a while to appreciate. I was immediately turned off by "I don't want to face the killer instinct. Face it in you or me." I initially thought it was a wimpy lyric. Also, probably because of a fellow Rush fan's words "Why the hell is Geddy trying to do? He can't sing and he's trying to sound like he can." I took those words to heart.

Over a few years time, I allowed myself to better understand the concept and what Neil as getting at.  And with Geddy, his voice never bothered me like it does to some. Rush wouldn't be who they are without that distinctive voice.

HYF is a solid album and is comprised of excellent material. I am a big fan of the drumming near the end of Mission, and as I mentioned before, the beat of High Water.

Not exactly directed towards you, Big Man. Just saying in general. Hell, even during a phone conversation with a buddy last week he expressed his distaste for it. I understood your position perfectly.

E


Edited by E-Dub - August 29 2007 at 12:20