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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 03:43
Originally posted by Dirk Dirk wrote:

Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Then you could try La Maschera di Cera, Ubi Maior, Conqueror, Mangala Vallis,  Randone, La Torre dell'Alchimista, Notabene, Aries,  The Watch and many others.Smile
That's close to my favorite modern italian list, my favs out of this are Mangala Vallis, Aries  and Conqueror,  La Maschera, Randone and  Notabene. First three bands don't have a typically italian sound but are very good symphonic bands anyway, MV is slightly Genesis like (checkout if you like Bernardo Lanzetti's voice though, i do but not everyone agrees), Aries and Conqueror have a somewhat spacy sound and great female vocals (especially Aries). Maschera and Randone have a  sound that reminds me of  70's italian prog. I can't place Notabene exactly, they have a very good singer that sounds more generally mediteranian then typical italian. They play in  forceful but not especially heavy symphonic style.

Ubi Maior and Torre dell'alchemista are also very good. they certainly have a sound that is similar to the 70's with melodies that are not so accessible as with the other bands mentioned here so they need some more listens to be fully appreciated. With both bands i have a slight problem  with the singing that sounds slightly nasal to me, This is probably entirely subjective so don't read too much in it. I listen to both bands regularly anyway.

I'm not a huge fan of the Watch, they resemble Genesis too much i feel. I personally prefer Mangala Vallis by a mile but there are probably a lot of people here  that disagree.

Finisterre, Hostsonaten,Gan Eden and Faveravola are 4 other modern bands from Italy that i love.






In this list I I add two bands that make revive the RPI: Nuova Era and Il Castello di Atlante. But also Hopo (great the limited edition [500 copies] private pressing [distributed by Mellow Records] album "Dietro La Finestra") is a good band (I think that in the Melloow Record site they would have to be available still some copy).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 04:42
Atavachron's "Palepoli" by Osanna great review:


OSANNA

Palepoli

(Studio Album, 1972)
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5%20stars One eventually gets it, this album, and why the 70s Italian scene was much more than pristine symphonics and precious cherubs. A few spins may be required though, and Osanna were not Banco. But they were terribly progressive and they rocked. The quintet also happened to be incredible musicians, it's just that they were a rebel-rock band first and made no apologies for that. 18 minutes of sheer heavy progdom is 'Oro Caldo', a raw jumbalaya of moody atmosphere, experimental samplings, greasy garage dirt, and some flat out classic symphonic prog with a great-sounding mellotron - and other unique and wonderful synth sounds - from Lino Vairetti. Plus the hot flute riffs of Elio D'Anna, absolutely smokin' rhythm section Massimo Guarino (drums) and Lello Brandi (bass), and lo-fi blooz chunks of guitarist Danilo Rustici. But there is so much more going on here it could require months, maybe years, to sort it all out and fully absorb this recording. More than prog rock, with a pull toward the avant garde but never slipping too far away. The session has an inviting, casual tone wherein everyone is welcome to listen and even participate, deep dreams and strange parties abound, plenty of texture, sensuality and strange people... like watching an orgy but not sure if you should join in. The set reminds at times of modern theater as well (i.e. 'Hair'), but shouts out with heavy mercury and constant invention. 'Animale Senza Respiro' takes over for the second half as things really begin to come on. The drugs have kicked-in, man, and it keeps getting better with some ripping guitar and hot band interplay, D'Anna's disjointed saxophones, wild changes, and bathtubs filled with lysergic trips. It all climaxes with the melodic and powerful voice of Vairetti and a bit of insanity, and leaves the listener wondering what they just heard in a very good way. Fabulous, and recommended.



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"Primitive" is good. But The Watch(ing) this album is true that millions of Progsters remains bewitched from this powerful concoction.  This is another case:

THE WATCH

Primitive

(Studio Album, 2007)
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4%20stars I think that in respct to other Genesis clone band this The Watch are very good because the tribute is only because the Neo Prpg is a great Genesis tribute. But if you love Neo Prog "Primitive" is the return to the very Neo Prog, when Marillion and others Neo bands aren't famous if not for to be a Genesis clone bands!!! In my opinion "Primitive" is also a good return in the vein of 70's Prog because is a great 70's album. Not for production of recording process but for inspirations. King Crimson, Genesis and also certain Kansas passages are in "Primitive". An album that I love from the first listening but that, in true, isn't so immediate like the mind recorded in your files. Because the difference from the Crimson, Kansas and Genesis admitted more listenings for to be understood like in consideration that the true differences existed and are evidents but not in the first line. In every case this is the confirms that the Italy is a nation in the first line in the war for Prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 06:33
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Very well done, Ely.
 
 
Oh, I've forgotten to post it here...
 
I've added contemporary italian band (from Trieste) Sinestesia to prog-metal thanks to the green light by prog-metal team. Thanks to Jody for the help with the pic.
 
 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 08:19
Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Atavachron's "Palepoli" by Osanna great review:


OSANNA

Palepoli

(Studio Album, 1972)
Limmagine%20“http://italianprog.interfree.it/osanna5.jpg”%20non%20può%20essere%20visualizzata%20poiché%20contiene%20degli%20errori.
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5%20stars One eventually gets it, this album, and why the 70s Italian scene was much more than pristine symphonics and precious cherubs. A few spins may be required though, and Osanna were not Banco. But they were terribly progressive and they rocked. The quintet also happened to be incredible musicians, it's just that they were a rebel-rock band first and made no apologies for that. 18 minutes of sheer heavy progdom is 'Oro Caldo', a raw jumbalaya of moody atmosphere, experimental samplings, greasy garage dirt, and some flat out classic symphonic prog with a great-sounding mellotron - and other unique and wonderful synth sounds - from Lino Vairetti. Plus the hot flute riffs of Elio D'Anna, absolutely smokin' rhythm section Massimo Guarino (drums) and Lello Brandi (bass), and lo-fi blooz chunks of guitarist Danilo Rustici. But there is so much more going on here it could require months, maybe years, to sort it all out and fully absorb this recording. More than prog rock, with a pull toward the avant garde but never slipping too far away. The session has an inviting, casual tone wherein everyone is welcome to listen and even participate, deep dreams and strange parties abound, plenty of texture, sensuality and strange people... like watching an orgy but not sure if you should join in. The set reminds at times of modern theater as well (i.e. 'Hair'), but shouts out with heavy mercury and constant invention. 'Animale Senza Respiro' takes over for the second half as things really begin to come on. The drugs have kicked-in, man, and it keeps getting better with some ripping guitar and hot band interplay, D'Anna's disjointed saxophones, wild changes, and bathtubs filled with lysergic trips. It all climaxes with the melodic and powerful voice of Vairetti and a bit of insanity, and leaves the listener wondering what they just heard in a very good way. Fabulous, and recommended.





Clap great review David hahhahha. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 08:32
Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Originally posted by Dirk Dirk wrote:

Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Then you could try La Maschera di Cera, Ubi Maior, Conqueror, Mangala Vallis,  Randone, La Torre dell'Alchimista, Notabene, Aries,  The Watch and many others.Smile
That's close to my favorite modern italian list, my favs out of this are Mangala Vallis, Aries  and Conqueror,  La Maschera, Randone and  Notabene. First three bands don't have a typically italian sound but are very good symphonic bands anyway, MV is slightly Genesis like (checkout if you like Bernardo Lanzetti's voice though, i do but not everyone agrees), Aries and Conqueror have a somewhat spacy sound and great female vocals (especially Aries). Maschera and Randone have a  sound that reminds me of  70's italian prog. I can't place Notabene exactly, they have a very good singer that sounds more generally mediteranian then typical italian. They play in  forceful but not especially heavy symphonic style.

Ubi Maior and Torre dell'alchemista are also very good. they certainly have a sound that is similar to the 70's with melodies that are not so accessible as with the other bands mentioned here so they need some more listens to be fully appreciated. With both bands i have a slight problem  with the singing that sounds slightly nasal to me, This is probably entirely subjective so don't read too much in it. I listen to both bands regularly anyway.

I'm not a huge fan of the Watch, they resemble Genesis too much i feel. I personally prefer Mangala Vallis by a mile but there are probably a lot of people here  that disagree.

Finisterre, Hostsonaten,Gan Eden and Faveravola are 4 other modern bands from Italy that i love.






In this list I I add two bands that make revive the RPI: Nuova Era and Il Castello di Atlante. But also Hopo (great the limited edition [500 copies] private pressing [distributed by Mellow Records] album "Dietro La Finestra") is a good band (I think that in the Melloow Record site they would have to be available still some copy).


Thanks all 3 for nice suggestions. Smile

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^  You can't go wrong with Palepoli that David reviewed.  An incredible album. 
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I am a mad man... But Igor is (maybe) better that me!!!
In this sense these review is a good way to this real sentence:

MARYGOLD

The Guns Of Marygold

(Studio Album, 2006)
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3%20stars Being a Fish-era MARILLION devotee means spend your free time in search of related bands. Every time, when a new name flashes on the horizon, thousands of “Fish and the guys” aficionados race to hear it first and then tell the others what they think of it. I’m kinda late with my review, but it’s never too late, when you’re still racing, eh? ;) OK, MARYGOLD is a kind of band that didn’t do it for me. I hear Fish-like voice, Rothery-like guitars and Kelly-like keyboards, I listen to MARILLION-like structured tracks, and I feel nothing. Sometimes this happens – that’s why there are so many bands of that kind. You can choose and decide for yourself which one you like and which one you don’t. I can’t say I didn’t like MARYGOLD; I hope they’ll grow on me on become more emotional with their second album. Recommended for MARILLION fans, but personally for me there are better MARILLION- inspired bands.

MAD PUPPET

Masque

(Studio Album, 1982)
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3%20stars The story of searches and finds…Two years ago or so I saw a review of Erik Neuteboom on this album, and realized, that I need that record. 1982, Neo-Prog, an obscure band – any Neo-Prog devotee should understand me I guess. Since those time I became less euphoric towards the genre, but suddenly found an opportunity to get this album (along with other rare Neo items). Hesitation lasted shortly – I got them practically by a song (very cheaply). Well, this is not quite Neo. This is what I’d call Heavy Prog. Songs like “Wild Rushing Waters” and “Icarus” are good examples of URIAH HEEP-inspired Prog Rock, while “Look Out” and “Wheels of Time” are rather funky (that’s what I didn’t like, to be honest). Folky “The Mask of Red Death” has stolen “Stairway to Heaven” chord progression and no singing, only declamation; nevertheless, it’s a best track here, along with 13-min long “Icarus” and opener track. Recommended, but bear in mind, that this is Heavy Prog, not Neo. Prog collectors, get this without hesitation – it’s very interesting.


Maybe Finnforest is another mad person if you like this Italian Prog...:

LE MANI

Le Mani

(Studio Album, 2006)
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3%20stars This is a very rare Italian title for which I was unable to uncover much in the way of history. I can only share what is available from the CD booklet.

Le Mani were from Milan and performed mostly covers until 1973 when they began to hit the festival circuit. Their style was supposed to be a mix of ELP and the Italian classical tradition. Songwriter Claudio Fucci joined the group and they began to make an album together but it was never released back then due to record company problems (shocking, I know.) These 5 songs are all that survived and they have been reissued on limited edition remastered CDs. There are both Italian and Japanese versions and I believe both were very limited runs. Move fast if you want to hear this.

The music is good to be sure but this is far from the “A-list” of classic Italian in my opinion. “Tarantella” features organ and flute trading off enthusiastic runs but the rhythm playing is somewhat modest. “Il palazzo” is the longest track at 6 minutes and trades the flute for some saxophone. The speed slows when the vocals begin. Fucci’s vocals are pretty good and sound nice against the saxophone. The Hammond is used extensively here as well with swirling runs quite high in the mix and the flute returns at the end. “Canto” is next and this one reminds me of Fucci’s solo album with its acoustic guitar and vocal harmonies. Flute and organ again run the show. I have to say that the production is not very sharp here, there is a certain muffled sound to this album that is noticeable but not bad enough to wreck things. “Mani” is the shortest track at only a minute and a half but it’s a highlight. It’s just a beautiful solo piano interlude but I love it. “La casa del vento” closes the disc and is clearly the most realized song featuring a great vocal with perfect flute and atmosphere, and a nicely strummed acoustic guitar. This one sounds more like PFM than ELP and that’s a good thing for this group. The melody here is really nice.

This CD is but 18 minutes long and so is recommended primarily to 70s Italian fans. But it is one of those rarities worth hearing. The last two tracks especially show the potential Le Mani had if they could have done more. Those two songs bump the disc from 2 to 3 stars.

“Le Mani seemed to be like a big dream that vanishes from our memories in the morning…only a memory is left, a taste, but we do not remember anything. Memory has betrayed us….Mine and Dario’s heart trembled while listening to these old tracks and then we sat down again in order to write and sing again….” [Claudio Fucci, 2006]



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2007 at 05:21
Interesting FUXI's review:

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PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM) — Storia Di Un Minuto
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3%20stars As so many of Progarchives' seasoned reviewers have pointed out, this album offers proof (if proof were needed) that classic symphonic prog didn't develop in England alone. If you like early King Crimson, classic Yes and Genesis, STORIA DI UN MINUTO is a real must. Nevertheless, I don't really believe this album is the masterpiece some people make it out to be.

I came to this music without preconceptions. Although I've enjoyed prog since the mid-seventies, I didn't discover PFM until this year (2007), thanks to Progarchives' recommendations, and I do believe the band sound a little dated. The lazy vocals on "La Carozza di Hans", for example (most probably influenced by the Beatles' WHITE ALBUM and ABBEY ROAD) sound rather sleep-inducing, although the band have given this track an absolutely astonishing instrumental ending. "Grazie Davvero", on the other hand, sounds like an Italian take on "Sgt. Pepper's lonely hearts club band", complete with over-insistent brass section. (I well recognise the genre. In the late 1960s Boudewijn de Groot, the Dutch version of Bob Dylan, tried out similar things.) So at certain moments, you might say, PFM are very much a product of their time, or of the times that came right before them.

Other tracks, though, feature solos, sudden tempo-changes and adventurous group playing that will knock you out flat. PFM fans will know that I'm thinking especially of "Dove...Quando...(Parte 2)", which features the most exquisite playing on (among other things) piano, violin (or is it really a viola?) and flute. If anything, such music (recorded in 1971, as far as I can tell) sounds more varied and sophisticated than anything Yes or Genesis were trying to do at the time; it also runs more smoothly and remains highly enjoyable.

Overall verdict: three and a half stars.


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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

I am a mad man... But Igor is (maybe) better that me!!!
In this sense these review is a good way to this real sentence:

MARYGOLD

The Guns Of Marygold

(Studio Album, 2006)
Limmagine%20“http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2586/cover_313818192006.jpg”%20non%20può%20essere%20visualizzata%20poiché%20contiene%20degli%20errori.
Review by Prog-jester (Igor Sidorenko)
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3%20stars Being a Fish-era MARILLION devotee means spend your free time in search of related bands. Every time, when a new name flashes on the horizon, thousands of “Fish and the guys” aficionados race to hear it first and then tell the others what they think of it. I’m kinda late with my review, but it’s never too late, when you’re still racing, eh? ;) OK, MARYGOLD is a kind of band that didn’t do it for me. I hear Fish-like voice, Rothery-like guitars and Kelly-like keyboards, I listen to MARILLION-like structured tracks, and I feel nothing. Sometimes this happens – that’s why there are so many bands of that kind. You can choose and decide for yourself which one you like and which one you don’t. I can’t say I didn’t like MARYGOLD; I hope they’ll grow on me on become more emotional with their second album. Recommended for MARILLION fans, but personally for me there are better MARILLION- inspired bands.

MAD PUPPET

Masque

(Studio Album, 1982)
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3%20stars The story of searches and finds…Two years ago or so I saw a review of Erik Neuteboom on this album, and realized, that I need that record. 1982, Neo-Prog, an obscure band – any Neo-Prog devotee should understand me I guess. Since those time I became less euphoric towards the genre, but suddenly found an opportunity to get this album (along with other rare Neo items). Hesitation lasted shortly – I got them practically by a song (very cheaply). Well, this is not quite Neo. This is what I’d call Heavy Prog. Songs like “Wild Rushing Waters” and “Icarus” are good examples of URIAH HEEP-inspired Prog Rock, while “Look Out” and “Wheels of Time” are rather funky (that’s what I didn’t like, to be honest). Folky “The Mask of Red Death” has stolen “Stairway to Heaven” chord progression and no singing, only declamation; nevertheless, it’s a best track here, along with 13-min long “Icarus” and opener track. Recommended, but bear in mind, that this is Heavy Prog, not Neo. Prog collectors, get this without hesitation – it’s very interesting.


Maybe Finnforest is another mad person if you like this Italian Prog...:

LE MANI

Le Mani

(Studio Album, 2006)
Limmagine%20“http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2569/cover_57141482006.jpg”%20non%20può%20essere%20visualizzata%20poiché%20contiene%20degli%20errori.
Review by Finnforest (James)
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3%20stars This is a very rare Italian title for which I was unable to uncover much in the way of history. I can only share what is available from the CD booklet.

Le Mani were from Milan and performed mostly covers until 1973 when they began to hit the festival circuit. Their style was supposed to be a mix of ELP and the Italian classical tradition. Songwriter Claudio Fucci joined the group and they began to make an album together but it was never released back then due to record company problems (shocking, I know.) These 5 songs are all that survived and they have been reissued on limited edition remastered CDs. There are both Italian and Japanese versions and I believe both were very limited runs. Move fast if you want to hear this.

The music is good to be sure but this is far from the “A-list” of classic Italian in my opinion. “Tarantella” features organ and flute trading off enthusiastic runs but the rhythm playing is somewhat modest. “Il palazzo” is the longest track at 6 minutes and trades the flute for some saxophone. The speed slows when the vocals begin. Fucci’s vocals are pretty good and sound nice against the saxophone. The Hammond is used extensively here as well with swirling runs quite high in the mix and the flute returns at the end. “Canto” is next and this one reminds me of Fucci’s solo album with its acoustic guitar and vocal harmonies. Flute and organ again run the show. I have to say that the production is not very sharp here, there is a certain muffled sound to this album that is noticeable but not bad enough to wreck things. “Mani” is the shortest track at only a minute and a half but it’s a highlight. It’s just a beautiful solo piano interlude but I love it. “La casa del vento” closes the disc and is clearly the most realized song featuring a great vocal with perfect flute and atmosphere, and a nicely strummed acoustic guitar. This one sounds more like PFM than ELP and that’s a good thing for this group. The melody here is really nice.

This CD is but 18 minutes long and so is recommended primarily to 70s Italian fans. But it is one of those rarities worth hearing. The last two tracks especially show the potential Le Mani had if they could have done more. Those two songs bump the disc from 2 to 3 stars.

“Le Mani seemed to be like a big dream that vanishes from our memories in the morning…only a memory is left, a taste, but we do not remember anything. Memory has betrayed us….Mine and Dario’s heart trembled while listening to these old tracks and then we sat down again in order to write and sing again….” [Claudio Fucci, 2006]



 
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Because this is a great album!!!:

CELESTE - Principe di un Giorno (1976) [rated 4/5 by kenethlevine]

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While parts of this album can be compared with passages from early King Crimson and PFM, Celeste focused on the mellow
aspects of those influences almost exclusively. The mellotrons and saxes of KC, the flutes and vocals of PFM, are all
blended into this unusual 1976 album. This is quietly colourful music, teeming with memorable melodies. Its significant
problem is that they are not always well developed, and sometimes end with a fade out that seems to be mid-song, as if they
were not fully composed, or they ran out of money in the studio.


The title cut sets the tone, with violin, mellotron, and flute ushering in gentle vocal sections. All lyrics are in Italian.
This is music without much edge, for those that like that, but it is emotional and very well played and arranged. Next is
my personal favourite , "Favole Antiche", which features several blasts of string and choral mellotron, organ, and
woodwinds, with the last 3 minutes of voice, flute, and piano over acoustic guitars being among the more beautiful prog
passages ever recorded. "La Grande Isola" builds to an elegant crescendo in a mellotron-synthesizer haze, even if it too
fades out where a grand ending might have worked better. But "Eftus" and "Giochi Nella Notte" both suffer from
developmental issues, while still having nice moments.


While at times in the past I might well have given 5 stars to this heavenly work, and I do enjoy it very much, I feel, "en
principe", that 4 stars is more appropriate given its occasional lack of dynamism and the presence of several uneven tracks.
Recommended if you enjoy mellow symphonic rock with a decidedly Italian flavour.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 17:53
Just read in andrea's review on latest New Trolls album:
 
"The other founder member, Nico Di Palo, here is in the background: because of the consequences of a car accident he can hardly move his left arm and he can’t play guitar anymore."
 
Has anyone more information? Is it for long? Will signore Di Palo be able to play guitar again?
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Just read in andrea's review on latest New Trolls album:
 
"The other founder member, Nico Di Palo, here is in the background: because of the consequences of a car accident he can hardly move his left arm and he can’t play guitar anymore."
 
Has anyone more information? Is it for long? Will signore Di Palo be able to play guitar again?
 
He had a car accident back in 1998 which left Nico in coma for almost a month, as a consequence, his body`s left side was paralyzed, since then i think he has been only able to play keyboards "softly", i dont really know if he will be able to play guitar again.
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 07:38
Thanks, memowakeman, I didn't know about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 09:46
A fine Kotro's review:

NEW TROLLS

Concerto Grosso Per I New Trolls (Remastered with Concerto Grosso n°1 and Concerto Grosso n°2)

(Boxset/Compilation, 1989)
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5%20stars PROGRESSIVE SUMMER RAMBLINGS 6

I have no ear -

Mistake me not, reader, - nor imagine that I am by nature destitute of those exterior twin appendages, hanging ornaments, and (architecturally speaking) handsome volutes to the human capital. Better my mother had never borne me - I am, I think, rather delicately than copiously provided with those conduits; and I feel no disposition to envy the mule for his plenty, or the mole for her exactness, in those ingenious labyrinthine inlets - those indispensable side-intelligencers.

Neither have I incurred, or done any thing to incur, with Defoe, that hideous disfigurement, which constrained him to draw upon assurance - to feel "quite unabashed," and at ease upon that article. I was never, I thank my stars, in the pillory; nor, if I read them aright, is it within the compass of my destiny, that I ever should be.

When therefore I say that I have no ear, you will understand me to mean - for music.

The above text is, obviously, not written by me, but by the great 19th century English essayist Charles Lamb. Like many of those playful essayists picked phrases and ideas from others, I too stole quoted this precious piece of literature to better make a point very much my own. In my case, I confess I have no ear - for classical musical. Which, come to think of it, is probably the same kind of music that old Charlie was referring to.

I mean, I enjoy it a lot, but in most cases I don’t know what I’m hearing unless I’m the one popping on the CD. I can’t tell the difference between composers or periods, and I certainly don’t know what they are on about with the technical language. I can’t tell a presto from a vivace, or a cadenza from an adagio. To me, a brass section is the place in the shop where they sell pans, and when someone tells me: “Listen to that coda!” I can only think to myself “Coda? That’s not Coda. That’s not even Led Zeppelin…” Yes, I shamelessly profess my ignorance and deafness when it comes to classical music. Or erudite music, as they now call it, in order to differentiate it from the other, more barbaric form of classic music – classic rock. Yes, another reason (and a good one, methinks) for not devoting myself to a greater knowledge of the genre is their apparent snobbery regarding every other type of music. Yet there were times when a few open-minded ones decide to endeavour in progressive approaches for both genres. Thus, there was a long line of rock bands experimentations with classical music so common in the late 60’s and early 70’s. And I must confess that this strange mix of classical structure and instrumentation with the raw power of a rock band, so sacrilegious to some, sounds wonderful to me, wherever it mail hail from.

The album I’m reviewing today is, of course, full of this classic mumbo-jumbo. It is the first successful collaboration, I believe, between South American classical composer Luis Enriquez Bacalov and an Italian rock band, the Concerto Grosso per I New Trolls, here neatly packaged together with Concerto Grosso Nº2 and low-priced for our convenience. Concerto Grosso per I New Trolls is by itself a great album, and I assume quite adventurous for its days. We had had previous experimentations of rock band and orchestra, but they were either based on arrangements of previous songs of the band or new, yet very demanding approaches to comtemporary classic to have great acclaim, but without great success, like Deep Purple’s Concerto for Group and Orchestra. But even without success, the Deep Purple progressive approach to rock, as witnessed in their first three albums, can be easily felt here. The other great influences are Jimi Hendrix, an the obvious odd baroque composer. The entire Concerto… is composed entirely of classic and rock instrumentation well mixed together. Divided in quarto tempi, they range from the vocal-less hard-rockin’ aggressiveness of the Primo tempo: Allegro, to the melancholic vocals and music of the Secondo tempo: Adagio (Shadows). The Bard provides the lyrics to this one, and despite the Italianized English of the band, he would have no trouble spotting the quote. The Terzo tempo: Andante con moto is delightfully kick-started by great violin playing, to which the string sections and electric guitar will add power, though still in a very melancholic way. Echoing falsetto vocals towards the end give it an eerier feel. The final, Quarto tempo: Shadows (per Jimi Hendrix), is less close to classical music than the previous tempi, more close to a pop-rock approach, and faithful to its honouring of Jimi Hendrix, as the great distorted guitar soloing can attest.

The second half of the album waves goodbye to Luis Enriquez Bacalov’s classical minglings and provides a fantastic 20 minute hard-prog jam, very much in the vein of Deep Purple or Uriah Heep, but with a very own sound. Heavy organ and guitar playing dominate the sonic landscape, to which the mad flute-blowing and falsetto vocals, so typical of New Trolls, give an immensely fun vibe. Throughout the 20 minute improvisation we get eerie, heavy, melancholic, funky, and bluesy. Everyone gets a chance to perform some soloing, and they all deliver the good exquisitely – even if the drum solo seems a bit longer than the rest.

The Concerto Grosso per I New Trolls is a definite landmark in Italian Symphonic Rock history. The second half of the album clearly had an influence over some later RPI gems, like Bigletto per L’Inferno or Campo di Marte, while the successful collaboration with the New Trolls encouraged Argentinean composer Luis Enriquez Bacalov to repeat the formula twice in the very next year, with RDM and Osanna, to mixed results. The experience resulted so well, that five years later he reunited with New Trolls for a second go at the Concerto Grosso format. The Concerto Grosso Nº2, like its predecessor, is presented in two halfs: the first the Concerto... itself, the second an assembly of more pop-oriented tracks. This second take is quite similar, although smaller than the first. It has some differences. It is much more electric and keyboard driven, less orchestral, with the string arrangements being the only recognizable feature from the first Concerto…. Plus, while the Primo tempo: Vivace is very entertaining and jumpy, the following Secondo tempo: Andante (Most Dear Lady) is just way too mellow. The finale of the second Concerto Gross regains some musical excitement, with a funkier, but less classical beat, but it just can’t shake away some of the terrible mellowness of the second tempo. The four tracks that follow Concerto Grosso Nº2 are some realy mellow, almost cheesy romantic pieces of proggy pop. Quiet Seas, Vent’Anni and Bella Come Mai are quite pleasant to hear, the last one having quite interesting musical passages, even if not very adventurous. But the New Trolls rendition of Let It Be Me almost made me end the listening there. However, had I done so, I would never have heard the fantastic final track, and greatest highlight of this second album, along with the Terzo tempo: Moderato (Fare You Well Dove). In fact, Le Roi Solei is a thrilling, fast-paced piece, heavy but still pleasant, cheeky without being cheesy, and finally rid of some the awful mellow romanticism that marked this second half of the album. Great vocals and chorus, reminiscent of Queen, with some very playful harmonies towards the end, fantastic string arrangements, and sparing but tasteful electric guitar work. And it ends the album beautifully, with what I like to call a display of orchestral fireworks. While Concerto Grosso per I New Trolls is a masterpiece in its own right, Concerto Grosso Nº2 seems a little disappointing. It has some quality, but in the end it adds nothing new to the first try. But for the price of one you get some 55 minutes of excellent musicianship, with a bonus of some 15 minutes of so-so music. I am quite happy therefore, with this edition. And even if I can’t really tell what makes an Andante from an Allegro, I can still appreciate this masterly work. Go for this remastered edition with the two Concerti…, you won’t regret it. As I re-listen to it while writing the review, it just makes me jumpy about the 2007 third rendition of this wonderful format.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 19:30
The last two Italian Prog review by  ZowieZiggy (Van Stichel):

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3%20stars For the fans of their great album "Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più", there is absolutely no risk with this live album. They should be transported to the same wonderful moments. At least when reading the track list.

The studio album was perfect : sound, arrangements were top notch. Even if this live recording is thirty years old, the sound is rather average (to poor, almost boot quality) which is a pain for the type of music "Locanda" is displaying.

The other concern is to know whether or not it is relevant to release a live album when a band has only one studio album behind him. I was incredibly in love with their debuts but this is a carbon copy (except "La Giostra" which was unreleased) . The audience is polite, the band as well (grazie, grazie...). At this time of their career, they could of course hardly know that they would only release one studio album (forget about their 1999 joke).

The sound quality is weak during one of their greatest number : "Forse Le Luciole ...". Emotions are still the same of course, but the studio version is far much more superior. It is probably the song which has lost the most of its beauty. The same is valid during the unreleased song :"La Giostra". Difficult to judge the quality of this track. What a shame !

Three stars.

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2%20stars I have known of very few bands that made a come-back after twenty-two years of silence. On top of this, "Locanda..." only released one studio album (but what a great one !). I wouldn't name these few bands (prog or not) who have tried this chalenge but I can't think of a single great result (even not VDDG).

So, it is with curiosity that I discovered this album and I have to say that the deception was enourmous. There is nothing left from the grandeur, complexity and wonderful harmonies available on their masterpiece.

The musicianship is still great of course, but in terms of compositions there is hardly any good song featured here. Average rock music with an Italian flavour. Nothing to do with "Forse Le Lucciole...".

Even some awful songs, would you believe... "Giro Tondo", the short "Bandando" of course, but the palm definitely goes to "Plovi Barko" which sounds as an African tribal song. This is too much for me. It is almost with relief that the listener reaches the next song : "Stanotte Dio Che Cosa Fa". Nothing great, of course. A mix of prog and rock. Just average. As the syrupous ballad "Certe Cose".

Same awful African "choirs" during the pityful "Ojkitawe". What happened ??? The poor funky "Fumo" is not helping this album of course...A poor closing song.

My opinion is that this band should never have released this record. They would have remained as a brilliant band even if short-lived (one wonder band, really). Two stars. Do not even approach this.







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 23:04
hahhaha.... Ziggyzowie is the man. Give him another year... he'll be giving Hugues a run for top reviewer hahaha.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 05:12
In this days I am produced a series of reviews with RPI (and related) live album for a big great special in this thread.
 
In this moment the live are 17... But the 18th is in the road.
 
In every case this special will be a monster special!!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2007 at 23:16
I need some assistance. I live in America, and I can't come across any RPI. I would like to at least get some PFM, Le Orme, and BMS, but I can't find them anywhere. Their sites are no help, and amazon only has ridiculously expensive imports (I'm not paying 60 bucks for Darwin!, regardless of how good it may be). Any help?
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Have you tried here?
 
 

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