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1800iareyay 
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 Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:13 |
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You can't force yourself to like bands just because they are popular on the site. At least you don't go around saying that KC sucks just because you don't like them (*cough*DT haters *cough*)
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glass house
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:16 |
Blasphemy, not liking Gentle Giant as well? 
Try as the others said, The Power To Believe. And give Octopus from Gentle Giant a chance.
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ian picken
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:27 |
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i will give them a try..... thanks.. what makes them worth getting in your opinion????
Edited by ian picken - August 14 2007 at 17:28
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sircosick
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:33 |
 1800iareyay wrote:
You can't force yourself to like bands just because they are popular on the site. At least you don't go around saying that KC sucks just because you don't like them (*cough*DT haters *cough*)
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Indeed right. Rush is one of the big ten and I cannot get into them. But King Crimson, let's face it, they're an exceptional case.... They are out of the average prog band, not because they're better or something like that, it's IMO due to their musical conception. It's like trying to get into Frank Zappa... that's not easy. So, you suppose to not be the only dude who can't get into KC.... that sounds logic. But if you're looking for reccomendations, I'd say...... mm..... Red! Do not try the newest stuff (say Power to Believe or THRAK) before trying something older, about the Wetton era.
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rushfan4
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:35 |
I have many CDs from KC, mostly because I have the affliction of many prog fans in that I can't hear the prog music on the radio so I go out and buy the CDs. KC and JT are the two bands from the originial Big 7 Prog bands that I like, but haven't been able to fully embrace. I don't have this issue with the other 5 original Big 7 prog bands: Rush; Yes; Pink Floyd; ELP; and Genesis. (The choice of the Big 7 is not my own, but from other Forum threads and it wasn't my intention to open that can of worms here again). On this previously mentioned thread, Gentle Giant and VDGG are also frequently mentioned as being part of the big 7 instead of other bands that are not liked by those individuals. I think that Gentle Giant is an acquired tasted (pun intended Acquiring the Taste). I thought that they were just OK upon my first few listens, but they have grown on me and I think they are good. On the other hand, at this point, I just can't seem to get in to VDGG. I suppose that it is probably another acquired taste.
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glass house
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:38 |
The King Crimson one is a bit easier to get into than Red for example. But still with all the ingredients that make King Crimson unique.
Ah, and Octopus, superb musicianship, great songwriting, they have a unique sound and the whole album has a very good feel to it.
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ian picken
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:41 |
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sircosick, apart from yes, genesis, rush, tull, elp, k crim, and p floyd, who are the rest of the big 10....????
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sircosick
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:45 |
^ No matter...... say big seven  But don't dismiss some bands so easily.... for me, Gentle Giant must replace ELP, and Frank Zappa also should take a place there. Then, you could speak about a big ten 
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The Miracle
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:49 |
I feel so special, I get into absolutely everything
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Bj-1
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 17:57 |
^ Pretty much the same here, except for cheesy power-metal, which you understand 
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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The Miracle
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:09 |
Bj-1 wrote:
^ Pretty much the same here, except for cheesy power-metal, which you understand |
It's not that I don't get it, I just don't like it. Same with punk and rap: I perfectly understand the appeal, it's just not to my taste.
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Bj-1
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:13 |
I like punk and some rap, but I agree that it's not my favorite music to be honest. At least that's better than being totally close-minded to other music
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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ProgBagel
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:13 |
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It's ok, I bet everyone hates a popular prog band on here.
For me, Tool.
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The Miracle
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:16 |
ProgBagel wrote:
It's ok, I bet everyone hates a popular prog band on here.
For me, Tool. |
I don't The only ones I can think of are Kansas and Symphony X but I've never said that I "hate" them(I don't) or that they suck.
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Tony R
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:18 |
ian picken wrote:
How weird... i am the same, not keen on g. giant or j. tull. |
and I am a big fan (read fanboy) of Rush and Porcupine Tree too!!!
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andu
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:20 |
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ian picken
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:42 |
Tony R...i have read your page and see that you like Arena, i have heard a few of their songs with mixed feelings, what cds do you recommend and why?? thanks....
Edited by ian picken - August 14 2007 at 18:43
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Inks
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 18:59 |
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Can't get into King Crimson?
Well, the 4 that i will recommend are
In The Court of the Crimson King (symphonic era)
Red (Metal/Jazz)
Discipline (Pop, Math Rock)
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The Power to Believe (New age Metal)
Now i will also like to add that i'm generalizing here, as i don't believe any of these albums can be put into one simple sub-genre.
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el böthy
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 20:53 |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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jammun
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Posted: August 14 2007 at 21:41 |
Another option is to pick up one of the 21st Century Guides to KC. You'll get to sample some of the more accessible songs from the various incarnations of the band. There's also a condensed two CD version -- cheaper -- which might provide direction for further exploration.
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