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KARCIUS
http://www.myspace.com/karcius
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Karcius
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Their first album Sphere is very good. I'll quote here a review from sinkadotentree (john davie) who writes great reviews here in PA:
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KARCIUS — SphereReview by sinkadotentree (john davie)PROG REVIEWER
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Dave Murray - The Deserts of Traun Pt. III
Being an ex Estradasphere drummer, nothing short of interesting can be expected. |
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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
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I don't know if you saw the interview I did with him, but if not, it's here:
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A band I recently discovered that is incredible...Pochakaite Malko :
Their debut and sophomore album Laya are superb.
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Ahh, I did not. Thank you. |
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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
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I'd like to give mention of the Japanese band Naikaku, who are a really fast-playing, jazzy, metal-esque symph group (with a flautist). They're really a lot of fun to listen to. Some samples and more info can be found here: http://www.progday.com/Bands-Naikaku.html.
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Wholeheartedly agree with above - an absolutely mind blowing and amazing band and one of the best recent discoveries for me too
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Thanks guys, now I'm getting into Pochakaite Malko. Here are some mp3s for those who want to sample it (from their official site): http://www.ab.cyberhome.ne.jp/~pochamal/pochakaite_malko/e-pocha/ep_disco.html
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Great band, Naikaku and glad to see another Pochakaite Malko fan.
Here's an album I'd like to recommend this time:
Jeff Gauthier Goatette - Mask (Cryptogramophone) (jazz-rock)
Here's Jeff Gauthier's bio from the label Cryptogramophone "Gauthier's compositions are quirky and offbeat, bubbling with unexpected rhythms and occasional warm lyricism. L.A. Times
Violinist, composer and producer Jeff Gauthier has worked with a wide range of musicians in a variety of creative contexts in a career that has spanned over 25 years. As an improvising violinist, he has performed and recorded with Yusef Lateef & Adam Rudolph on the album The World At Peace for Meta Records, The Alex Cline Ensemble on albums for ECM & Cryptogramophone, and The Vinny Golia Large Ensemble, Quartetto Stig and the Cline Gauthier Stinson trio, all for Nine Winds Records. His own ensemble, the Jeff Gauthier Goatette has recorded three CDs including Internal Memo and The Present for Nine Winds Records and Mask for Cryptogramophone. Mask was nominated for a 2002 AFIM Indie Award. He has also performed in ensembles with bassist Mark Dresser (The Banquet) and drummer Gregg Bendian (Bone Structure). As a founding member with Nels Cline, Alex Cline and Eric von Essen of the ensemble Quartet Music, a creative presence in Los Angeles for 12 years, Gauthier recorded four albums, received two NEA grants, was a member of the California Arts Council touring roster, and performed twice as soloist with the Milwaukee Symphony. Recently named a "Rising Star" in the category of Producer in the 2003 Downbeat Critic's Poll, Gauthier has worked with such luminaries as Alan Broadbent, Nels Cline, Mark Dresser, Peter Erskine, Jimmy Rowles, Stacy Rowles, Alan Pasqua, Don Preston and many others recording CDs for Cryptogramophone, Delos and Nine Winds Records. As a classical violinist Gauthier has performed with the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra, Los Angeles Music Center Opera, Los Angeles Mozart Orchestra, Long Beach Symphony, the Oregon Bach Festival and the Carmel Bach Festival. He performed on the 2000 Grammy Award winning CD Credo, by Kristoph Penderecki with the Oregon Bach Festival Orchestra and Chorus. He has also performed on countless films and TV shows, including almost every Star Trek film and TV show spin-off known to man. Gauthier is a graduate of California Institute of the Arts." Other sources for background about him are:
Here's a review of the album Mask from Dusted Reviews:
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Quite the prosthetic personaJeff Gauthier spends so much time supporting other creative artists it is remarkable that he finds time to even consider composing and recording his own music. Thankfully, he manages somehow. Like other releases on his Cryptogramophone label, the Jeff Gauthier Goatette’s latest effort, “Mask,” follows the path suggested by such patron saints of creative music as Lester Bowie and others who made serious, important, groundbreaking music, but also made it fun. The Goatette, which features Gauthier on electric violin, Nels Cline on guitars, David Witham on piano, Joel Hamilton on Bass and Alex Cline on drums, has been performing together since 1991, and the collaborations between Gauthier and the Clines go back to the late 70s. Mask is the third album the group has released, the first two, “The Present” and “Internal Memo” were released on the Nine Winds label.
Mask the album would be worth owning even if it only contained “Mask” the song. The four-part Gauthier composition, which was inspired by the “richness, beauty, and synergistic yet random nature” of a Billie Holiday song on a late December evening in Mexico, weighs in a second shy of eighteen minutes, and is intricate enough that it continues to hold surprises well beyond ten listens (I’m currently pushing twenty.) Pianist David Witham is the first out of the soloing gate, laying a dirty, distortion-tinged electric piano lead over the song’s opening vamp. Witham finishes and the quintet takes an introspective turn on the strengths of Gauthier’s lead work, before heading into a mysterious sonic jungle, which will leave even the strongest-willed of travelers feeling uneasy. And that is just the first ten minutes.
But listeners are in luck, as there is plenty more where that came from. These include two more compositions by Gauthier, a new composition by the incomparable guitarist Nels Cline, a rollickingly playful reading of Ornette Coleman’s “Enfant,” and Eric von Essen’s “Waltz For K.P.,” a tune which draws upon Bill Evans’ swung ballad approach and features particularly fine acoustic piano work by Witham. The musicians’ sixth-sense understanding of the music and of each other’s playing is evident throughout the album, perhaps most acutely on Gauthier’s “Ephemera – for Eric,” with bassist Joel Hamilton and drummer Alex Cline pushing and pulling the rhythmic envelope while Nels (on acoustic twelve string) and Gauthier take turns negotiating the curves. It is a treat to hear Nels Cline, whose plugged-in pyrotechnics have been much heralded, turn in great work on acoustic. Who knows where he found the time to make an album like Mask, but here’s to hoping that Gauthier continues to locate some extra hours here and there.
By Bruce Wallace" Other reviews:
Cryptogramophone (gathering of several reviews)
The album can be purchased at Indie Jazz.com
Cryptogramophone- CG112( 2002) Alex Cline - drums, percussion Mask features Jeff Gauthier on electric violin, Nels Cline on guitars, David Witham on piano, Joel Hamilton on bass and Alex Cline on drums. This is Gauthier's third CD as a leader and first for Cryptogramophone. Mask features works by Gauthier, Nels Cline, Alex Cline, former Goatette member Eric von Essen, and harmolodic legend Ornette Coleman. This is Gauthier's strongest and most original statement to date, and heralds his arrival as yet another important jazz violinist with a French name.  Track Listing (click linked titles for mp3) 1. Clea's Bounce [07:14] 2. Waltz For K.P. [05:05] 3. Enfant [05:54] 4. The Fools [11:26] 5. Ephemera (for Eric) [09:01] 6. Mask [17:55] 7. Forgiveness [09:36]  Edited by avestin - July 31 2007 at 21:19 |
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Another post, but short one with only links. Two Israeli bands: The other band is Coda - http://www.myspace.com/codaband1 "Coda, a new Israeli band, was formed in 2006 By Eyal Amir(Composer/arranger/Pianist in denial) and Ray Livnat(the fool on the top left, who sings in Iris & Ofer Portugaly's Gospel Choir, and has proved many times that he is loud and proud of it), who met as students in 'Rimon' - School of jazz and contemporary music. After working on various musical projects together, they decided to form this band, which will play original music in their own kind of style."
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To continue my recommendation of the Jeff Gauthier Goatette album Mask, I'll recommend another related album.
The album is Bone Strcuture, which is performed by the foursome of musicians (also calling themselves Bone Structure, which is essentally a Gregg Bendian led project).
So who plays here:
G.E. Stinson - electric guitars, dobro, implements Track Listing
(click linked titles for mp3) 1. Muscle Tone [05:10] 2. Plasma Wave [08:22] 3. Floating Bunraku [08:29] 4. Nomad [03:06] 5. Ether Or [08:01] 6. Steel Hair [06:41] 7. Spirit Box [06:48] 8. Toothpick Fantasy [02:50] 9. Demagogue [04:43] 10. Lock It Down [08:31] 11. Faded Sun [03:13] 12. Mutoscope [10:11] Here's what All About Jazz says:
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Bone Structure is something different: post-jazz fusion-progressive rock-electronica-jam band music that features a wily sinister vibe. Some of the infectious grooves are reminiscent of those laid down by Ginger Baker and Jonas Hellborg on Baker's very fine and underrated Unseen Rain from several years back. Other influences can be heard as well. From time to time guitarist G.E. Stinson sounds remarkably like John McLaughlin from Miles Davis' Live Evil. There are also allusions to works such as Weather Report's “Mr. Gone” and “Saturn Return” from Elements.
The point of mentioning these influences is to provide a musical vantage point. Please don't believe that the music is derivative in any way. In fact, it is quite original and somewhat dangerous. I must admit that I find it difficult to listen to the entire album in one sitting. I am from the old school and still not quite used to sitting still for seventy-five minute albums. But the real reason for the difficulty is that the musical intensity released by these players is quite an overwhelming experience. One gets the sense that you are listening to a soundtrack of a very good science-fiction movie in which perhaps some not so very good things are happening. Bendian does stupendous triple duty on the album, playing drums, glockenspiel and piano. Jeff Gauthier plays some very haunting electric and acoustic violin. Steuart Liebig's bass is a force for evil in the grooves and Stinson's acid guitar is a revelation as are his contributions on “implements.” These “implements” create what I would call electronic noises. I have never enjoyed such noises until I heard this album. They are distinct yet indistinct parts of the music. You'll actually have to listen to Bone Structure to appreciate that last sentence. The music was actually recorded in 2000, but the album was not released until this year. The band claims all of the music was improvised on the spot. If this includes the “implements” sections, it would make this claim doubly impressive. Something else about the album is quite intriguing: the sound appears to all come from the center channel and then branch out as if it was being released through an upside down funnel or one of those old RCA Victrola horns. I don't know how they got this effect or even if it was intentional, but it gives the music a very strong hypnotic center. Choosing specific tunes to illustrate these points would be a pointless exercise. The album is thematic in nature, with 12 tunes somehow interrelated to make a cogent whole. This is very serious and exciting music, dark and thought provoking. Don't think you can just listen to it half-assed.
Personnel: Gregg Bendian- drums, glockenspiel, piano; Jeff Gauthier- electric and acoustic violins; Steuart Liebig- contrabassguitars; G.E. Stinson- electric guitars, dobro, implements Style: Beyond Jazz | Published: February 13, 2003" More interesting links about this album and more:
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Three bands I'll mention this time, all from Japan and all from the avant-rock/chamber rock side of things...
The first is a band I added here a while back - ZYPRESSEN (I think I already mentioned them in this thread).
The two others are bands I will be adding to PA in the future when time permits - Lacrymosa & Amygdala
Zypressen
Their PA bio:
"Zypressen is/was a Japanese chamber music quintet with ties to fellow countrymen Lacrymosa. Their music is more in the lighter side of things and they can be compared at times to Univers Zero (not to say they sound like them, but as a point of reference) and it slides into Zeuhl territories at times. While the lineup consists of an electric guitar, drums & percussions, the dominant instruments in their tracks are the classical instruments such as cello, violin viola, piano, flute and clarinet. Their s/t album from 1996 is hard to track and supposed to be out of print, but can found occasionally at online stores or auctions. In any case, well worth the trouble of locating it, as the album manages to keep a good flow of interchanging sounds/themes and electric vs. acoustic tracks. "
http://progressive.homestead.com/JAPANreviews2.html (scroll down the page)
Lacrymosa (related to Zypressen):
The following are reviews of their two albums, taken from Gnosis 2000:
http://gnosis2000.net/reviews/lacrymosa.htm " Sjef Oelle ; Lacrymosa (aka Bugbear) On the first full-length album of the Japanese band Lacrymosa, they already had developed completely their doom-ridden, avant-garde, chamber rock. With an instrumental line-up that includes violin, oboe, clarinet, saxophone and cello, it is probably no surprise that they often sound like a modern chamber music ensemble, albeit supported by a rock music rhythm section. Often the band sounds about as creepy and threatening as Univers Zero. It is not hard to imagine this music as part of a horror movie soundtrack. There are several beautiful, almost pastoral melodic sections, but usually within a few bars musical elements foreshadowing upcoming disaster or threat fill the sonic air. Lacrymosa is significantly harsher and darker in sound than the somewhat similar Japanese band Zypressen, who have a more delicate take on "chamber rock". Bugbear is a great album and recommended listening for anyone into the Joy of a Wrecked Ship Lacrymosa's second album Joy of a Wrecked Ship opens with stormy weather, heavy rain showers and, a bit later, a thundering sound. The stage is set; this is the second episode into Lacrymosa's dark and brooding world of avant-garde chamber rock. All the elements of the first album are refined on this album and the compositions are more dynamic and powerful. Lovely delicate chamber music sections are slowly or abruptly intruded by dramatic bursts of avant-rock violence. Some tracks even have the brutal martial tone that characterizes some of the Magma recordings. Nevertheless, bands such as Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Henry Cow and Zypressen are still the best reference points to get an idea of their sound. Not exactly easy listening, but intense and rewarding. A classic ! Amygadala: The following are reviews taken from the Soleil Zeuhl website: http://alain.lebon4.free.fr/soleil/amygdala-gb.html AMYGDALA : Same ( Soleil Zeuhl 11 ) AMYGDALA is a Japanese band, heavily Zeuhl-influenced (much more on the UZ side than Magma, I'd say), with that Amygdala - "Amygdala" (Soleil Zeuhl 11, 2004, CD) Amygdala - "Amygdala" (Soleil Zeuhl 11, 2004, CD) Amygdala - "Amygdala" (Soleil Zeuhl 11, 2004, CD) For more info on Japanese prog and experimental music look here:
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On the subject of Japanese prog, I recommend the all-girl symph outfit Ars Nova.
Their keyboardist has collaborated with Ayreon. And she has blue hair, at least part of the time. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=28 http://arsnova.chocot.net/arsframeset_eng.htm |
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I'd be interested to know how well you took to Amygdala's somewhat midi-fied sound, avestin. =)
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Yeah, I was somewhat put off at first, a bit perplexed, but gradually got accustomed to it and since I liked the music itself, it went all together fine, but probably having mroe than two musicians and not using programming would have achieved a better sound/result.
There's so much more, just look at the link of my previous post.
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To continue the Japanese prog, NAIKAKU are one hell of a band! Shell is fantastic!
Grab it!
To continue the two previous posts of mine from above (Jeff Gauthier and Bone Structure) here's another goodie:
Steuart Liebig - Pomegranate
This is from the Cyrptogramophone website:
"This set of four concerti is an epic masterwork by composer/bassist Steuart Liebig. It featues soloists Nels Cline on electric guitar, Mark Dresser on contrabass, Vinny Golia on sopranino saxophone and Tom Varner on french horn. These soloists are backed by a crack ensemble of Eric Barber - woodwinds, Ellen Burr - flute, Alex Cline - drums, John Fumo - trumpet, Jeff Gauthier - electric violin, Steuart Liebig - electric bass, and Scot Ray - trombone. Destined to become a creative music classic, Pomegranate bridges the gap between jazz, contemporary classical music and skronk-rock.
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Pomegranate (2001), which consists of four concerto-like vehicles for featured soloist and a seven-piece backing band, could probably be considered the apotheosis to date of the compositional ideas begun in Quartetto Stig. Besides the obvious challenge of trying to capture the personality of each featured soloist, there are some major differences between the four long-form pieces written for Pomegranate and the long-from pieces written for Quartetto Stig. Whereas the long-form pieces for the quartet are often episodic or based on classical forms (sonata allegro, rondo, theme and variations), the music on Pomegranate is based on the use of form by Stravinsky (and other 20th-century composers) and in the films of Peter Greenaway (The Pillow Book in particular). Another important distinction is that much of the music for the quartet was programmatic in nature--that is, the music was influenced by or based on a novel, a poem, a painting, a place, a person, etc.--the music for Pomegranate is, but for one small exception, non-programmatic. " Reviews and other misc. can be read here: Alex Cline - drums/percussion
Ellen Burr - flute, alto flute and piccolo Eric Barber - B flat clarinet Jeff Gauthier - 4 and 5-string electric violins John Fumo - trumpet and flugelhorn Mark Dresser - double bass and gifus Nels Cline - e.guitars Scot Ray - trombone Steuart Liebig - contrabassguitars Tom Varner - french horn Vinny Golia - sopronino saxophone Track Listing
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Sooner or later, we're going to just exhaust all of the J-prog there is.
Here's a very useful article: http://www.geocities.com/1-0/REVIEWS/article.html Here's a particular mention: Bi Kyo Ran - (a King Crimson-esque band...to the point of the guitar being a clone of Fripp) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=41 |
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C'est Mortel - s/t
Excellent heavy (at times goes into metal even) and complex post rock
From the label's website - http://www.2sheds.com/cestmortel.html
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Devin Brown - guitar, vocals Seems like every musician in Athens is in multiple bands, so why should Jet by Day be any different? Jet by Day mainstays Tom Naumann and Mason Brown get their jones to "do something different" by moonlighting in C'est Mortel, a post-rock/prog-rock project that also includes Athens area musicians Devin Brown, Brett Griffin, and David Specht. Formed in 2000, C'est Mortel composes and perform epic compositions which render obsolete the context in which others use the term. C'est Mortel's M.O. is to write 30-40 minute mostly-instrumental compositions, which are made up of multiple suites or theme changes that are simultaneously part-Slint and part-Kyuss, Each "song" is labeled as a "set" by the band, which is an indicator that the "sets" are really meant to be heard and performed live. C'est Mortel's live show typically consists of one of their sets, performed in its entirety. Since the band has a number of sets on tap, fans are often treated to an entire show they've never heard before. Brett Griffin joined Naumann and Brown as Jet by Day's bassist in August 2003. C'est Mortel is currently inactive, as the Jet by Day contingency is now devoting all of its energy to the main gig "Reviews:
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Delusions of Adequacy - "Some would call it straightforward rock, while there are elements of math-rock, prog-rock, and even stoner-rock with metal moments. But that's what is so good about this release. The styles are blended effortlessly, and the fact that the band recorded these songs live amazes me. This is a fantastic release, and the fact that this is a side project is astounding. Let's hope it doesn't get ignored as side projects tend to be, because with this more free, less constrained project, these guys have amazing potential." Splendid - "C'est Mortel (Tom Naumann and Mason Brown, both of whom are members of Jet By Day, who formed this as their night gig) follow the standard formation of guitars and drums, like their contemporaries and comparison measurement the Oxes, but the added sounds set them among instrumental experimenters like TransAm, Tristeza and Tortoise. Naumann and Brown feed each other incredible energy; in both tracks, the muscular drumming and ripping chords crescendo like the players are fighting each other, but the sounds mesh perfectly." Southeast Performer - "This powerful but unobtrusive seven song album is a dynamic journey into a territory filled with alienation, struggle and surrealism; a sort of mental Dali painting. It pulls from bombastic beginning through extreme quiet, blending back into fuzzy spaces inhabited with shrieking guitar, theremin, blasting drums and a constantly changing schizophrenic melody. There's a full dose of metallic prog-rock, but it is tempered with abrupt, sparse lines, spacey experimental jags, and even clapping." "Samples:
Great project, too bad it's discontinued.
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This may be silly to some people, but I recommend Steeley Span.. It is a shame that this nice group doesnt appear on PA.
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Maps & Atlases
Gang Gang Dance
Pawa Up First
Gastr Del Sol
Below The Sea
Immanu El
Tera Melos
These are just a few bands taking me over at the moment that are interesting.
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4.5 stars.These guys from Montreal are amazing!This music is often on the heavy side,which i like,yet there is some good variety here,including lighter jazz passages. Things get started with "Kunide" opening with intricate acoustic guitar with background synths.Drums,guitar and keys come in to provide an interesting,tasteful soundscape that intensifies.The melody changes again with heavy bass and drums with some great guitar as well."Liquid Meat" is a crunchy,heavy song with intricate drumming and a great bass solo.The guitar is so good,man these guys would be incredible to see live!"Evolution" opens with a good bass line, with a great guitar melody that comes and goes.There is this amazing,searing guitar solo as well.The next section is called "Lunatik" and consists of the next three songs,starting with "Highway To the Moon".It opens with bass and percussion as synths,guitar and drums create a wonderful sound.Nice bass solo 3 minutes in!There is some piano, light drums and a relaxing guitar melody to follow."Synapse" is an uptempo song with drums and guitar,before the bass and guitar trade solos, until the lead guitar comes in with some scorching melodies."Back To Earth" goes from a light and jazzy sound to a dark and heavy sound.Some more amazing guitar too,as the drums pound away."1111" is dominated with piano melodies,with drums and guitar providing different moods and tempos along the way."Labyrinthe" features the bass outfront again,as RUSH comes to mind in this well crafted tune."Bois Ta Musique" is a lighter,jazzy song that eventually speeds up with some scorching guitar."Absolute Decadence" is quite mellow until about 2 and a half minutes in when the guitar is on fire again!The tempo continues to change in this fantastic song. This is a must have for fusion fans,you won't be disappointed. 
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