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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 13:51
As long as there is no direct contention with a Live ablum not being Prog,(Tongue), then it should be allowed to be judged alongside the bands Studio work. Let's be honest here - what we are discussing is whether they should show in the Top 100 progressive albums and if they do then they are judged to be better - so I say yes, include them.
 
DVD's are a completely different issue - they are usually bought by hardcore fans of the band, not by people with a casual interest, hence this will be reflected in the ratings (in statisitical terms they will be skewed in favour of a high rating) and hence cannot be (or are not) judged on equal terms with audio recordings.
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 20:33
stop this madness... 

now we want to eliminate live albums from this list.... hey what's next...why don't we remove frickin prog-metal albums as well. They aren't progressive enough. LOL

The list is now composed of prog albums....  let that dead horse rot in peace now.
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Points: 21633 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:21
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Noted Mike. I'll raise it with M@x.
 
I'm not sure that we have an overall consensus about live albums through, what do others think about not allowing them in the top 100?
 
Last time I questioned this, I mentioned "Pictures at an exhibition" by ELP, which is otherwise unavailable on a studio album (in full). Someone suggested it should be reclassified as a studio album, which is clearly not the answer!


My suggestion to solve this problem: Add a separate list for top live albums beneath the current list. Max already truncated the list from 100 to 50 entries, why not simply add a separate "top 20 prog live albums/DVDs" list?

The problem is - like The T pointed out - that the vast majority of live albums are either like compilations or they are "duplicates" of studio albums (like Dream Theater - Live Scenes or Pain of Salvation - Be Live).
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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 05:27
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:



Yes, it is jsut the initial chart you see on the home page which has been changed. M@x is still considering further changes.
Maybe you could remind him about live albums in the top 100 on the front page ... they should be removed as well.And while we're at it: On the top 100 page the search filters don't work together too well ... when I select "studio albums" and then another genre, the "studio albums" selection is lost, and generally the selection of album type isn't highlighted.Smile


I think live albums have their place. Yes, they are compilations, but they are different versions. Peter Gabriel "Plays Live" is a tremendous album on its own. And I would place "Yessongs" over a good number of their studio albums.
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