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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 11:58
Low was his most progy album but all his 70 stuff are great! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 12:04
Hunky Dory and The Man Who Sold The World are the most progressive.
 
His Berlin Trilogy comes next in proginess, but not nearly next in quality IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 12:31
His first 5 albums are great; hoW not to like ZIGGY SATARDUST  and the ''crazy piano'' on ALLADIN SANE.
 
Not fan at all of ''young americans ''period.
 
Good, but not outstanding ''ENO '' period collaboration (low)
 
Forgetful 80s releases ( like a lot of 70s superstars)
 
A good come back with HOURS in 2000 ( great album- good old Bowie is back) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 16:35

Bowie is just brilliant.

Thr trick is to get any album that was originally released on the RCA label and you cant go wrong. My top 5 however would be...
 
1. Man who sold the world
2. Station to station
3. Scary monsters
4. Hunky Dory
5. Diamond Dogs
 
Seriously worth collecting all the 70's releases as no 2 albums are the same, enjoy!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 05:23
Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
 
Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 09:09
Bowie deserves to be a Honorary Mention becuase he was/is one of the most influential artists of all time for every genre imaginable but he was also equally influenced by them - however we don't have a HM category. Prog-Related I think is tenous because he had PR songs, but not whole albums.
 
His pre Ziggy albums have definite Proto-Prog songs:
Space Oddity - for Memory of a Free Festival, Cygnet Committee and Wild-eyed Boy From Freecloud.
Man Who Sold The World - for Width Of A Circle, All The Madmen
Hunky Dory - for Life On Mars (a mini-prog epic) and The Bewley Brothers
 
...I would recommend any of those, together with Diamond Dogs (for the concept), Station to Station and Low (the better of the 3 Berlin albums)
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:55
Bowie is a man of many styles.  While Rick Wakeman did play with him a few times, and he has some prog moments he wouldn't exactly fit in prog.  He's messed with glam rock, blues rock, dance, electronica, industrial, and many other styles.  I'd recommend getting the complete catalogue.  He's a brilliant person and is not to be missed out on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:57
Great in the seventies
sucked in the eighties
prog in the... oh wait
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 09:54
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
 
Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!
This thread is over two years old. Why it was revived is beyond me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 16:30
New memebrs are joining all the time. They will inevitably want to discuss things which have been talked about before. They face derision of they start a new thread on an old topic, so a catch 22 situation develops.
 
I think we need to be tolerant of old subjects being revived, it's only fair.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 13:19
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!


Just the other day i was looking for some Iggy Pop and Lou Reed for my record collection. But David Bowie, well i think he is Glam Rock, Art Rock and Pop. Like many said, start from his 70's albums. Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 13:23
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
 
Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!
This thread is over two years old. Why it was revived is beyond me.


hahhaha... wow.. we should congratulate whoever revived it since we are so quick to nail people for starting new threads on subjects which have been previously done.

It's not like it was even another call for his inclusion... just a thread wanting some recommendations.  Jeepers Peter LOL


Edited by micky - August 04 2007 at 13:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 00:20
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
 
Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!
This thread is over two years old. Why it was revived is beyond me.


hahhaha... wow.. we should congratulate whoever revived it since we are so quick to nail people for starting new threads on subjects which have been previously done.

It's not like it was even another call for his inclusion... just a thread wanting some recommendations.  Jeepers Peter LOL
Smile Mickle,
 
by "beyond me," I didn't mean that "we should never discuss this topic -- damn ye all to hell " but rather I was just larfing at the fact that a two years-plus old thread should suddenly get responses... as if the original poster were still there, urgently awaiting replies, and unsure how to proceed with his enjoyment of Bowie.
 
For his sake (and despite all you "fresh from the bong" latecomers), let's hope he wasn't holding his breath in the interim! LOLWink


Edited by Peter - August 05 2007 at 00:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 15:47
David Bowie being discussed for a prog-related is something popular as hell, it will come around every time a fan will feel the progressive kick inside the artist and will want to "start" his suggestion - eventually, many of those times will lead to big discussions - I would say "until Bowie's appurtenance in/towards prog won't be decided once and for all"; but I already know better that, even upon knowing the general decision, a new spark of suggestion might lead, eventually, to total re-consideration.

But the point of my post is different, since, recently, and by a good collaborator's opinion, Bowie was suggested towards a genre of full prog - and the designated specialists of that genre have taken commitment to fully search and decide on David Bowie's music, style, character, etc. Therefore, until that is done, it would be enough to ask that no final decision, nor huge and endless discussions be made on Bowie, wishing deeply for a conclusion - at least till that Team clears out the suggestion it received, and Bowie heads into being suggested for another genre or for Prog Related. Or, actually, get taken out of any progressive account.

Nothing against discussion about it, and nothing to do about new fans and members who will try to suggest, once again, Bowie for prog; yet, until that Team finishes its appreciation, there's little reason for other angles (whether a genre or Prog-Related) to be simultaneously considered.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 16:01
Well... PR or Art Rock or... David Bowie is an artist for PA because i have noted that today is a obscured reference for a lot of bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 17:37
Originally posted by Carakhallo Carakhallo wrote:

I still haven“t listened to any David Bowie“s record and I heard some of them are quite near to prog rock. Can anyone recommend me some of his releases? I am interested in those more prog-like sounding.


70's feel:

- Rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust bla bla bla...
- Hunky Dory
- Low

Recent production:

- Earthling (absolute masterpiece)
- Hours
- Everything else
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 17:41
A few years ago I witnessed a live concert by David Bowie (perhaps 2002 or 2003) on the Arte Channel tv, it was awesome, so creative with many mindblowing new rendtions of classic footage and, last but not least, it was pure Art-rock, this artist should be added to Prog Archives, now, now , now Thumbs%20Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 17:49
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
 

Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!


Yeah... and then let's worry about Congreso... ... still wating for that PM, mr. Trane.

Anyway, Bowie is by far more influential and more innovative (still producing fine albums... when was the last time Lou Reed produced something remotely interesting). If Iron Maiden deserves more attention than Bowie around here... well, several conclusions comes to mind...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 17:57

Asking to worry about The Velvet Underground instead of David Bowie is like asking to focus on Grateful Dead rather than Vanilla Fudge here on Prog Archives Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2007 at 20:56
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
 

Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!


Yeah... and then let's worry about Congreso... ... still wating for that PM, mr. Trane.

Anyway, Bowie is by far more influential and more innovative (still producing fine albums... when was the last time Lou Reed produced something remotely interesting). If Iron Maiden deserves more attention than Bowie around here... well, several conclusions comes to mind...


I don't understand why you and others keep digging up Iron Maiden again and again. As the person responsible for their addition, I can tell you that it wasn't something done on the spur of the moment, or without the approval of the owners. People had been suggesting them for addition for months, and they were on the Prog Metal team chart.

The same cannot be said for David Bowie, who has LOTS of supporters anyway , in case you haven't noticed. The problem is, people don't seem to agree on where to put it, whether in Prog-Related or in Art Rock (which is a 100% prog genre). I am quite sure that, if he ever gets added, there will be many forum members complaining about him as there are now complaining about Iron Maiden, Queen, The Who, Deep Purple, and so on.

And then, in case you hadn't noticed.. Iron Maiden are in Prog-Related, which means NOT PROG. The forum isn't flooded with threads about them or any other PR band, seen as they have a separate section. Such arguments are getting old and stale... Perhaps it would be more productive to examine an artist's production on its own merits, instead of continuing with the same old song, "if X are here, why not Y?".
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