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Vompatti
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Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:41 |
Maybe she has all the answers and would like to share them?
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Shakespeare
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Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:43 |
Yes.
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 28 2007 at 11:47 |
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you've just been disqualified. Oh, bugger...
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Viajero Astral
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Posted: July 28 2007 at 21:04 |
This is the end?
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 11:39 |
What if it isn't?
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 12:42 |
isn't every end also a beginning?
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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1800iareyay
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 13:15 |
Does a circle have a beginning?
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 13:16 |
no, but it has no end either, and is this a circle anyway?
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 16:04 |
Is it even possible to know if it's a circle or not before we end up where we began (if we ever will)?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 16:10 |
What if it were a Möbius strip? Wouldn't we then arrive at the same
place but on the other side? And what exactly would "on the other side"
mean? Doesn't a Möbius strip really have only one side? So would we have to run around twice to arrive in the same place?
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 16:18 |
If it only has one side (as it seems), how is it possible for us to go
around once and say that the place where we started is here, but on the
OTHER side?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 17:14 |
Have you ever made a Möbius strip out of a piece of paper? That is, have you every cut out a long strip of paper, formed a ring out of it, then twisted one end by 180° degrees and then glued the ends together? And then ran along the strip of paper with a pencil? Would you then not have noted that when you arrive at the beginning again after running around once you seem to have landed on the other side? And if you continued from there, would you then not have noticed that after running around with the pencil another time you will be on the "same side again", but your pencil marks will be on "both sides"?
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 18:31 |
What if I have and I still don't understand how is it possible to land on the other side of something that only has one side?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 19:03 |
What if it is a paradox?
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 07:07 |
Does the fact that paradoxes exist prove that there is something seriously wrong about our logic and the way we perceive the world?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 07:29 |
Does it not rather reveal the fact that our brains are made for interacting with the world, but not for understanding it?
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 08:31 |
Isn't it somewhat risky to try to interact with something we don't understand, and wouldn't it be safer for us to avoid interaction with the world as much as possible?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:00 |
Don't we already experience the results of such an inept interacting?
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:57 |
Should we try to cut down on such interaction and hope for the best, or simply
accept the irreversibility of the results of our earlier interaction
and keep on interacting no matter what the results are?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 10:12 |
Isn't the best solution (according to game theory, a mathematical branch that deals with exactly such problems) in a case where you don't know what to do to resort to some element of random, like throwing a coin or a die to determine your actions?
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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