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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 02:39 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^^ actually the word "overrated" is a contradiction in terms, since the ratings speak for themselves. Unless there is a flaw in the calculation of the average rating the albums are always neither "underrated" nor "overrated". So what people usually mean by it is that in their not at all humble opinion many of the people which rated the album were wrong. I think it's ok ... we can't all agree on everything. But the more ratings an album has and the longer it has been in the database, the more likely it is that those who claim that it's over/underrated are wrong ... they might simply have unusual tastes/opinions or different criteria for rating music. |
"overrated" doesn't neccesarily have to be in strict mathematical terms...I think the topic started meant it as a more abstract principle but I could be wrong. Ah, maybe I just don't like numbers very much...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 02:27 |
^^ actually the word "overrated" is a contradiction in terms, since the ratings speak for themselves. Unless there is a flaw in the calculation of the average rating the albums are always neither "underrated" nor "overrated". So what people usually mean by it is that in their not at all humble opinion many of the people which rated the album were wrong. I think it's ok ... we can't all agree on everything. But the more ratings an album has and the longer it has been in the database, the more likely it is that those who claim that it's over/underrated are wrong ... they might simply have unusual tastes/opinions or different criteria for rating music.
Edited by MikeEnRegalia - July 30 2007 at 02:28
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 02:26 |
jimmy_row wrote:
"overrated" is an offensive and elitist term implying that your opinion (and thus pinning everything down to personal taste) is superior to the many who think highly of a particular subject. |
Good, glad to see we're all on the same page. Now...Yes.
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 02:18 |
"overrated" is an offensive and elitist term implying that your opinion (and thus pinning everything down to personal taste) is superior to the many who think highly of a particular subject. So here we have a thread aiming to prove 'my taste is superior to yours' ....'nuh uh mine is better'.
I just hope intelligent conversation is "overrated"
Edited by jimmy_row - July 30 2007 at 02:18
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 02:15 |
All the mentioned bands actually released some great albums ... for example Blood Sugar Sex Magik is one of my favorite non-prog albums, Aerosmith - Pump is great too, as are the already mentioned early Metallica albums.
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mrcozdude
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 01:56 |
yeah i'd go for Metallica but there fans would never want to except that and in 5 years to come i'll say artic monkeys
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 01:05 |
Threads about overrated bands are overrated.
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proggy
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:52 |
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kazansky
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:46 |
*insert a famous-band-you-dislike's name here*
dude...
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ProgBagel
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:41 |
I think the Red Hot Chili Peppers is the biggest piece of garbage ever created. I slowly watched as the schools big shot raved about them and one by one everyone slowly converted. It seemed like people just liked them to fit in.
Oh and try this on a Chili Pepper fan, happens everytime.
'Hey'
'Hey'
'The Red Hot Chili Peppers suck'
'No!! Flea is like the best bassist'
..I don't even consider him decent..
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:38 |
Everyone.
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aspinosa
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:38 |
Rush and Jethro Tull is a bit overrated in this site.
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activetopics
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:37 |
yes, let me rephrase; modern metallica is overrated.
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Turion
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:36 |
I would have to say Genesis for me! And metallica IS kinda overrated, but those four first albums of them are pure genius and MUST be worshipped as so.
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Walker
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:36 |
activetopics wrote:
yea i'm new lol just testin' to see the time it took to get some replies....kinda figured this was heavily discussed. |
My bad... I didn't notice you were a newbie and I should have. My apologies. Welcome to the Archives! We're not a bad lot really, I promise!
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activetopics
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:30 |
yea i'm new lol just testin' to see the time it took to get some replies....kinda figured this was heavily discussed.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:27 |
Be easy on him, he's new
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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Walker
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:26 |
here we go again
dude... ever heard of the search function? We must have had this discussion at least 10 times this month alone. (OK, I exaggerate, but not by much).
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:24 |
Really, I couldn't agree more. I'd put Nirvana and Aerosmith up there too. All four have dwelled in mediocrity throughout their careers and became very celebrated for it. I don't get it.
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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activetopics
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Posted: July 29 2007 at 22:19 |
Red hot chili peppers and probably Metallica are my two top choices.
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