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Dan Bobrowski
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Topic: Best Instrumental Prog. Posted: August 29 2004 at 18:00 |
Song or album. Doesn't matter.
I really dig instrumental music, sometimes better than lyrical tunes. Instrumentals afford a person the mind imagery that creates a personal connection to a tune. I love mindscapes, music that sets a feeling, a mood. Dick Heath has turned me on to a few "MUST HAVE" instrumental discs, but I still crave more.... It's a sickness, I suppose.
Make a TOP TEN or just throw out ten top single tunes of instrumental prog releases.
Mine:
1. Mood for a Day - Steve Howe (YES- Fragile)
2. Epilog - Anglargard
3. We'll Let You Know - King Crimson
4. Tokyo Dream - Allan Holdsworth
5. The Classic Connection - Rick Wakeman
6. Polytown - Torn, Bozzio, Karn
7. Black Light Syndrome - Bozzio, Levin, Stevens
8. Emergent - Gordian Knot
9. The Barbarian - Emerson Lake and Palmer
10. YYZ - Rush (Maybe..... La Villa Strangiato... Hard to choose)
What's your top ten or your view of instrumental music?
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Posted: August 29 2004 at 19:00 |
Mahavishnu Orchestra, Inner Mounting Flame and the Bird something album. Those guys are amazing, and McLaughlin is simply the best guitarist ever.
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Posted: August 29 2004 at 19:25 |
Godspeed You Black Emperor. Period.
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Posted: August 29 2004 at 19:37 |
Well lets get the ELP out of the way first...
- Toccata
- The Three Fates - originally that beginning organ solo scared the crap out of me.. but I grew very fond of it.. The second fate however, is one of the most beautiful moments in music....
- Tank - its even great on Carl's solo album.. Working Live, with a guitar replacing the keyboards.
- The Barbarian
- Fanfare for the Common Man
- Aquatarkus
- Hoedown
- The Hut of Baba Yaga
- Close to Home
- Abbadon's Bolero
Now for the others...
- Alan Parson Project w/ David Gilmour - Return to Tunguska
- Pink Floyd - On the Run
- Pink Floyd - Great Gig in the Sky
- Pink Floyd - Marooned
- David Gilmour - Lets Get Metaphysical
- David Gilmour - Raise My Rent
- Yes - Steve Howe - The Clap
- Enya - Watermark
- Vangelis - Hymn
- Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
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THIS IS ELP
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Posted: August 29 2004 at 19:38 |
- Heaven & Hell (Vangelis): All instrumental except for the song by Jon Anderson
- Epilog (Anglagard)
- Hamburger Concerto (Focus): I believe This Van Leer only uses his voice for yodelling and making sounds.
- The Brazilian (Genesis): The only song I like from I.T.
- Moving Waves (Focus): Idem N° 3
- Piano Concerto N° 1 (Keith Emerson in Works I): Each day I like it more.
- Six Wives of Henry the VIII (Rick Wakeman)
- Tubular Bells (Mike Oldfield)
- Los Endos (Genesis)
- Criminal Record (Rick Wakeman): I believe only Breathealyzer has vocals.
Iván
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Posted: August 29 2004 at 19:51 |
Words fail me.
My choice
1. Hemispheres: all instrumentals apart from tracks 1,2, and 3
2. Tubular Bells : all instrumental apart from the bits that aren't, vocal noodling and yahooing.
3. Sounds Of Switzerland : yodelling is not singing it is using the voice as an instrument.
4. Hocus pocus : see above.
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 02:00 |
I prefer instrumental music, or at least music featuring vocals in languages I do not understand...I'm working on forgetting the English language too ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 04:49 |
ELP:
Hoedown
Aquatarkus(live)
Toccata
The Barbarian
Abaddons Bolero
Other bands:
Focus - Sylvia
Focus - Hocus Pocus
Genesis - Los Endos
Edgar Winter Group - Frankenstein
Camel - Moon Madness
Albums:
Rick Wakeman - Six Wives Of Henry VIII
Vangelis - Albedo 0.39
Mike Oldfield - Incantations
Tangerine Dream - Force Majeure
Liquid Tension Experiment 2
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 06:22 |
I think that basically prog is instrumental music. How can you classify singers as prog singers, for me it makes no sense. In that case Meredith Monk is a prog woman singer . I love prog only for its long instrumental landscapes and fruitful arrengements.
So, too difficult to put my 10 fav...the prog music that I listen to is instrumental with a few exceptions (VDGG, Arthur Brown, Black Widow).
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 09:15 |
Gryphon - Red Queen To Gryphon Three
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats (except for one song which has Captain Beefheart on vox)
Grobschitt - Solar Music Live
and some stuff from Soft Machine.
...and all of the above.
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 09:20 |
I'd agree with you there, philippe - on the whole we listen to most prog for the music, not the vocals.
It always amazes me that Andrew Lloyd Webber's Variations is hardly ever mentioned - since the performers are most of Colussem II, and other great names such as Herbie Flowers and Phil Collins. It's the best merging of "classical", rock and jazz I've ever heard.
Camel's "Music Inspired by the Snow Goose" is another masterpiece of instrumental prog.
I couldn't put together a "top ten", as there are just too many great instrumental recordings - but those two top the bill.
I bought "Inner Mounting Flame", and would have to agree that there is some superlative Jazz/Rock fusion on there, but McLaughlin is presumably better on other recordings, as he bluffs his way through most of it with noodling, and ruins what would otherwise be a masterpiece.
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 13:25 |
I think that basically prog is instrumental music. How can you classify singers as prog singers, for me it makes no sense. |
Good point Philippe, but I have my doubts. Of course the main characteristic of prog' rock is the music itself, but there is a difference between prog' lyrics and commercial ones.
Most of commercial lyrics are based in love and basic instincts, they worry more of the metric and the sound of the words than in what they are saying, of course there are exceptions, but this is the most common option.
Prog' lyrics go further, they explore complicated issues like meaning of life, divinity, historic facts, etc. For example Jon Anderson is pure poetry (Not my favorite though) based in meaning of life, Genesis explored violence, history even botanics, ELP lyrics are totally versatile, they went from love to far west stories, Jethro went even further with Thick as a Brick, Aphrodite's Child dared to deal with the most complex and controversial Book of the Bible.
Who except a prog' band would dare to tell a story as the one in "The Hangman and the Papist" by The Strawbs? Where a hangman finds the next victim is his own brother and starts to question his own faith
The jailer binds his hands and puts the blindfold to his eyes He leads him through the door before the crowd The hangman sees his victim and the blood drains from his face He sees his younger brother standing proud The hangman tries to protest but is ordered to proceed His trembling hands begin to take the strain His eyes are blind with streaming tears, he cries for all to hear Forgive me God, we hang him in they name. |
Prog' albums are often conceptual, songs are linked one with the others and the lyrics of each track are part of a whole story.
I believe our main interest is in the music tself, but good and inteligent lyrics help a bit.
Iván
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 14:23 |
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 14:56 |
I think you're right to a certain extent Philippe, in the case of Yes for example, the lyrics of "Close to the edge" are written purely for "instrumental" purposes. On other ocassions (such as "Dark side of the moon" as a well known example), they bind the album together. Would DSOTM have been such a masterpiece without the lyrical concept?
Good quote Ivan, you'd almost believe it's Dave Cousins' brother who's being hanged, he puts so much emotion into that song.
"Hamburger Concerto" by Focus is probably top of my list of favourite instrumentals.
Noteable mentions to "The songs of distant earth" by Mike Oldfield, "Monmadness" by Camel, and "The loner" by Gary Moore.
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 16:42 |
All of the above and Atlas' "Bla Vardag", Swedish '70s masterpiece.
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Posted: August 30 2004 at 18:51 |
It is extremely hard to choose:
Let's say:
Banco - Traccia 2
Frank Zappa - Redunzl
Frank Zappa - Bogus pomp
Happy the man - New York dream suite
Gryphon - Heldenleben
Rush - La villa Strangiato
Eddie Jobson - Lakemist
Rick Wakeman - Chamber of horrors
Pat Metheny - Antonia
Vangelis - Chariots of fire
no, no: it is not that ! I can find better, but that is what i'm thinking about right now!
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Posted: August 31 2004 at 05:28 |
Dont know about a top 10, but here's mine in no order:
La Villa Strangiato - Rush
Los Endos - Genesis
Lunar Sea - Camel
Chord Change - Camel
Space Chase - Hawkwind
Theme 1 - VDGG
Anything from 'The Grand Wazoo' - Frank Zappa
Anonymous - Focus
In the case of Camel, they were at their best when Andy Latimer wasn't trying to sing ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted: August 31 2004 at 15:59 |
Blacksword wrote:
In the case of Camel, they were at their best when Andy Latimer wasn't trying to sing ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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I thought they were better when Pete Bardens wasn't trying to sing ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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