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StyLaZyn 
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 Posted: June 29 2007 at 10:43 |
The Beatles top the list, even if not fully Prog.
Petrucci has a great sense when he decides he wants to use it.
I find Rush fairly melodic.
Yes has many melodic highly moments that get shuffled away with pretentiousness.
One the flip side of this question, there are a ton of Prog artists that are NOT melodic. I attribute the lack of Prog popularity do to this.
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clarke2001
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How do you measure the melody-ness of the band?
I understand if someone says "Camel and Italian prog rock in general are more melodic than Meshuggah", but that's only my gut feeling.
Melody is one of the major ingredients of the human phenomenon called music, and every music without melody...well, I'm not sure if it's music any more.
Everything that could be written with musical notation contains melody, and not only that, because Stockhausen's "Contacts" can't be written by old-fashioned musical notation, and that piece is still melodic to some extent.
Melody needs a pitch, I guess. (Or not?) But does this peach need a change? No, it could be constant electronic tone, or death metal growl. It doesn't matter.
The music lacks melody if it lacks music. Or maybe not? John Cage's "4'33" contains only silence. However, in a strict sense of musical theory it contains melody: in musical notation, the melody is written entirely with note pauses. (Maybe not, but it could be easily described that way)
Perhaps music that contains ambient elemets is the least melodic. It's funny how many people mentioned The Beatles as one of the most melodic bands, but "Revolution 9" is one of the less melodic things ever.
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el böthy
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 11:42 |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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dedalus
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 16:10 |
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Andrew Latimer's CAMEL
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 20:10 |
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The Miracle
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 21:25 |
Dredg and Red Hot Chili Peppers  However I don't think melody is necessary in music at all, in fact it's more challenging and fun without. 
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IVNORD
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 22:27 |
 The T wrote:
Who? (not The who of course...)
I think The Beatles, as much as I don't like them as much as other people (  that sounded so gramatically awful), are some of the undisputed kings of melody....
Yes, this thread is about melody. Not about odd time signatures or incredible harmonies, but about that underrated element in music called melody.
What band do you think is capable of writing some of the best melodies in the rock world?
I don't think, by the way, that Messhugah would qualify for this thread...  |
Looks like the discussion took a detoure and deviated from the original topic widely. It has been melody.
Taking into consideration the sheer spectrum of their melodiousness, the beauty of their melodies, and the fact that they almost never duplicated their own tunes neither in melody nor in melodic harmony (only What Goes On / The Word (both from Rubber Soul) and Paperback Writer / Baby You're a Richman both in part using arpeggio as a base come to mind as somewhat similar) - the Beatles, of course. I wonder what could they achieve if they were trained musicians?
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Norbert
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 11:17 |
Yes
Gentle Giant
Genesis
The Flower Kings
Marillion...
and probably many more.
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 11:33 |
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Oh yeah!
Anathema, Indukti, Dreamscape and Riverside from the progmetal genre.
Oh, and Enchant. 
Edited by Majestic_Mayhem - June 30 2007 at 11:35
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StarBreaker
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 12:53 |
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Amorphis!
Vocal melodies, keyboard melodies, guitar melodies... Yeah, pretty much melody in every sense of the word.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 13:32 |
Music is melody ... it's as simple as that. Of course there are many other elements, but melody is the essence. 
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Marillion, Pendragon, Joe Satriani, Ayreon, Mostly Autumn Pure Reason Revolution, Steve Hackett and Camel are all artists that spring to mind.
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The T
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 18:20 |
StarBreaker wrote:
Amorphis!
Vocal melodies, keyboard melodies, guitar melodies... Yeah, pretty much melody in every sense of the word. |
Edited by The T - June 30 2007 at 18:21
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Komodo dragon
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 18:26 |
Amon Amarth  what'a melody ....what'a face
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 19:09 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Music is melody ... it's as simple as that. Of course there are many other elements, but melody is the essence.
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I was typing a response but then I found this one, which is just about what I was going to say.
Who makes up the best motifs or melodies? Those people who make up those licks where you think, "Damn...why didn't I think of that? That is so simple yet so affective!"
I get that feeling when listening to Miles Davis, The Flaming Lips, Primus, and The White Stripes.
As for prog. bands? Most prog. bands don't make up these GREAT melodies. As said ealier this is probably the reason prog. is so disliked.
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el böthy
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 19:15 |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 20:10 |
MusicForSpeedin wrote:
As for prog. bands? Most prog. bands
don't make up these GREAT melodies. As said ealier this is probably the
reason prog. is so disliked.
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I consider myself obsessed with melody, and prog is one of my favourite
genres because I think the melodies in folk/prg and symphonic prog, and
some "clasic rock", if you will, are powerful and deep, sometimes very
subtle, and perhaps this subtlety is why mainstream audiences don't get
it. There are too many bands for me to name that produce highly
melodic prog...just look at my four and five star reviews for an
idea...obviously many more to come.
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The T
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 20:25 |
MusicForSpeedin wrote:
As for prog. bands? Most prog. bands don't make up these GREAT melodies. As said ealier this is probably the reason prog. is so disliked.
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I don't agree completely.... While it may be true that prog has not as "catchy" melodies as other more mainstream genres, prog has more, say, complex melodies, melodies that need more notes, longer phrases, and in that respect this genre is also closer to classical music... Whereas the usual melody for pop songs is very very short, catchy, inmediate, in prog the whole melody, for the whole phrase to go from beginning to end we may need more measures than in a simple pop melody....
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 20:38 |
I agree that prog has many great melodies
but for a band/artist to be considered a king of melody I don't think prog is the best place to look. I feel kings of melody would be able to have their songs be considered the standards or something of the sort. You can have a melody just go the entire song, but I wouldn't consider that a way to go about making AMAZING melodies. You need a motif. You need to expand on your motifs but not make it a cluster #$%@ of notes.
Too many notes is musical masturbation. I rather listen to something that is amazing for its simplistic style than a band that flexes its technical ability...but this is a whole other discussion.
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Posted: June 30 2007 at 21:08 |
Simon and Garfunkel.
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