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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 05:58 | |
Another excellent review! Well done, James!
FORMULA 3 — La Grande Casa Review by Finnforest (James) Great album for wine at the summer house. Posted Monday, June 25, 2007, 21:05 EST |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 08:47 | |
Oh, yes... There are too excellent reviews to signal the all!!!
But also this is a great review: RACCOMANDATA RICEVUTA RITORNOPer... Un Mondo Di Cristallo(Studio Album, 1972)Review by Andrea Cortese (Andrea Cortese) SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Italian Prog Specialist
This is a hell of an album, a classic. I know of a certain proghead who would surely confirm
it. “Per ... un Mondo di Cristallo” is the only record ever released by this band under the
name of Raccomandata Ricevuta di Ritorno (RRR for short). As usual in RPI, it's a
wonderful debut album. Not clearly a symphonic prog effort in the pure sense, since the
evident jazzy vein, as in the instrumental track “Nel Mio Quartiere” (In My District, 3,58
mns) and the omnipresent folky and pastoral touches, faithfully to the purest italian
tradition. This interesting mix of genres is what many other italian bands of the seventies
have created, each one in its peculiar way. Just think to Delirium, for instance who went
mixing jazz, folk and Crimson's early symphonic experience. Just think to Procession who
were more lucky than RRR and managed to record a pair of convincing records. Just think
to Osanna and their unique musical madness from Neaples. To name but a few. |
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 09:02 | |
^^^^ YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! still waiting for you Mandy to give that album another star hahahha
I guess it was your review Andrea that guy didn't like hahhaha. He said he hadn't looked at mine. I wanted to give it 5 but you know I do my ratings a bit differently. |
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 09:03 | |
actually...that gives me an idea for a poll....
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 09:40 | |
Honestly, I also wanted to give a four star rate but I changed my opinion yesterday in the evening 'cause RRR' sound is really unique and the general rating were too low. Edited by Andrea Cortese - June 26 2007 at 09:41 |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 11:26 | |
A key of reading really interesting to understand better PFM's "Stati Di Immaginazione" is to listen to it together to PFM's "Ulisse" and Franco Mussida's "Racconti Della Tenda Rossa" like part of a chance trilogy.
This is the review of Mussida's "Racconti Della Tenda Rossa": FRANCO* MUSSIDARacconti Della Tenda Rossa(Studio Album, 1991)Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador) Collaborator Italian Prog Specialist — First review of this album —
My review is produced using this release: Virgin Dischi SRL VDIK 7124 (MC) Edited by Mandrakeroot - June 26 2007 at 11:26 |
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 13:41 | |
that was a great review by the way... I think (did my review of that some time ago) I gave it 4 for the site.. but 5 stars for my personal enjoyment. |
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 13:43 | |
good review Mandy! Nice point about the trilogy...
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 13:58 | |
Naturally it is only my key of reading...!!! However "Racconti Della Tenda Rossa" has a lot of points in commune with "Stati Di Immaginazione"... Even though only to conceptual level!!! |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 16:13 | |
Wonderful! Other great news from BTF: 1) Alberomotore - Il Grande Gioco (1974) reissue
Long OOP record, finally available again!!
A five-piece of very good musicians from Rome, Alberomotore (or Albero Motore as it was sometimes written) were aided and produced by 60's singer-guitarist Ricky Gianco. The musicians where involved with acts like “Il Ritratto di Dorian Gray”, Raccomandata con Ricevuta di Ritorno, Samadhi, Goblin, Libra, Quella Vecchia Locanda, ,Carnascialia. In "Il grande gioco" they worked together with songwriter Ricky Gianco (owner of the Ultima Spiaggia label), Carlo Siliotto (Carnascialia), Giuliano Illiani (also known as Donatello, a well-known Italian singer), Luigi Cinque, who played with Banco del Mutuo Soccorso for awhile and Gianni Nebbiosi. In this album the band recorded tracks that are not immediately recognizable as classic Italian prog, having a rural and genuine hard rock edge, full of suspense, highlighting the excellent and rough voice of Maurizio Rota. Also the record has a very good musical continuity and is still an excellent listen. After disbanding, most musicians of Albero Motore where involved in folk or world music projects: Marcello Vento played in Carnascialia and Canzoniere del Lazio, but also for Antonello Venditti and Loredana Bertè, Marcello Vento with Pierangelo Bertoli and Jenny Sorrenti, Adriano Martire with Pietro Brega. CD reissue in deluxe papersleeve edition with extended liner notes. 2) I Numi - Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (1971) reissue
A band from Pavia formed around 1967 from the ashes of local beat groups Gli Spettri, I
Solitari, Gli Imprevisti, they only released an album in 1971 for the small Polaris label (the same as I Teoremi). Alpha Ralpha Boulevard nowadays is considered a minor Italian prog classic , is housed in a very nice cover, while music is song-based, with soft and dreamy atmospheres and good lyrics by composer Guido Bolzoni. He had worked with some important names of the Italian pop music (like Mina). Some foreign influences are evident in the guitar playing of Mario Rognoni (nicknamed Carlos for his ability in playing in Santana style), but the band's sound has a strong, typical Italian melodic songwriters vein. Instead of symphonic pomp, I Numi focus on straightedged plots, based on the interplay between guitar and spinet, the excellent drumming, while lyrics mainly dealt with human condition, and an overall sad melancholy. The band had a good concert activity and even played at the Festival di Re Nudo in Zerbo in 1972, one of that year's main musical events. Also they supported acts like Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Patrick Samson, Franco Battiato and The Renegades. The group split later the same year, when drummer Sollazzi left to join Lucio Dalla's band. Numi incarnation was reformed in 1975, this time with two keyboardists and a more symphonic and ambitious sound. This line-up composed several concept works, the best of them will be seen on CD in a future AMS release. CD reissue in deluxe papersleeve edition with extended liner notes and unreleased pictures. Edited by Andrea Cortese - June 26 2007 at 16:16 |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 17:20 | |
Oniric promotion:
Today I wrote to the mail of the Lizard Records and I obtained answered from LorisFurlan that it ensured me that it will listen to them and that then it will know to say me. It seems interested, because it says that it is always to the search for something again and not of the usual Italian Prog. Unfortunately it writes me that it has in gone out 4 CD and that then will be compelled to take a short pause... Because the Italian market (and in all general) isn't flourishing. Loris is all right with me when I talk about deep state of coma. We hope well!!! |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 17:21 | |
Good News, My friend!!!
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micky
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:22 | |
hahah... you are the man Mandy. great news indeed. I know I wouldn't stand in your way hahha. After an album or two.. write Richard Branson or something... he HAS to be tired of all that sh*t they put out. Remind him of the way Virgin USED to be hahaha.
Anyhow... for discussions sake... here's a list of albums from my personal 'bible' of RPI that lists information, discrographies, line ups of almost 400 RPI groups and artists. The book also includes some 7 interviews with lesser known musicians and recollects their days of the prog rock movement in Italy. The book provides a list of recommended/required albums. Some I agree with strongly... some I don't.. what do you all think. They obviously only did one album per group. Alluminogini - Scolopendra Alphataurus - s/t Balletto di Bronzo - Ys Banco - s/t Battiato - Pollution Biglietto per l'inferno - s/t Califfi - Fiore di metallo Capitiolo 6 - Frutti per Kagua Corte dei Miracoli - s/t De De Lind - Io non so da dove vengo Delirium - Dolce acqua Edgar Allan Poe - Generazioni Garybaldi - Nuda I Giganti - Terra in bocca Ibis - s/t Jumbo - DNA Metamorfosi - Inferno Museo Rosenbach - Zarathrustra New Trolls - Concerto Grosso N.1 Le Orme - Collage Osage Tribe - Arrowhead Osanna - L'uomo Pierrot Lunaire - s/t PFM - Storia di un minuto Quella Vecchia Locanda - s/t RDM - Contaminazione Samadhi - s/t Trip - Caronte L'uovo di Colombo - s/t Il Volo - s/t what would you guys replace...and with what.. I think the theme was to show the definative RPI albums.. and to show the historical import. Only way to explain a couple of the selections hahah. Edited by micky - June 27 2007 at 08:24 |
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paolo.beenees
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:33 | |
I'd recommend to replace the Alluminogeni (I think that Scolopendra has got the worst production and - most of all - the worst lyrics in RPI) with "Fragments of Light" (or "Finest Finger") by Sensations' Fix. Anyway, I wonder if there is some rules or limitations to new entries in this list, as I notice that only the symphonic side of RPI is here considered (no Area, Arti e Mestieri, Aktuala or Opus Avantra, for instance). |
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micky
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:40 | |
give that man a cigar.... other than a couple of albums from some artists like Jumbo and Osanna that I would change... that is the first thing to jump out at me. In the write ups on Area and Arti e Mestieri they specifically mention how important those groups were. They mentioned how important ..and unique Aktulala was in bringing arabic music into RPI.Go figure... good post |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:57 | |
I haven't all of the album that you listed in this list, micky... And I would not replace nothing to your list. I would add nevertheless (some are too important for me and superfluous for other!!!):
Formula 3: "Dies Irae" Toto Torquati: "Gli Occhi Di Un Bambino" Gianni D'Errico: "Antico Teatro Da Camera" E.A. Poe: "Generazioni (Storia Di Sempre)" Festa Mobile: "Diario Di Viaggio Della Festa Mobile" Locanda Delle Fate: "Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più" Rocky's Filj: "Storie Di Uomini E Non" Alan Sorrenti: "Aria" Riccardo Zappa: "Celestion" Triade: "1998- La Storia Di Sabazio" Rustichelli & Bordini: "Opera Prima" Edited by Mandrakeroot - June 27 2007 at 09:00 |
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micky
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 09:03 | |
oh no Mandy.. it's not mine... it was out of the book.
I see 3 in your list Mandy that would be absolute musts on that list. To replace 3 that didn't belong there. Samadhi, EAP, and Alphataurus to be replaced with Aria, Celestion, and the LDF album (though I'm one of the very few that doesn't care for that album) I'd also make room for Tilt, and Crac by taking out Frutti per Kagua which I was NOT impressed with (one that I have actually reviewed.... I really need to review more) and ...as much as I love it..... Arrowhead. Too many albums..not enough slots. |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 09:15 | |
Beh, micky... I am so that the mine and the list that you published become basic for a basic discography of the RPI, reported to the 70's!!!
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micky
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 00:57 | |
... the answer to my oft-repeated question.... there IS crying in prog....
http://www.movimentiprog.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Appuntamenti&file=app_view&id=5382 wonder what Raff would say about postponing our wedding hahhaha |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 28 2007 at 05:49 | |
Uhm... Well... Certainty that in the state of coma in which it is found the Italian Prog... I spoke just via mail with Loris Furlan of the Lizard Records... Not to be able to put under contract the groups (unless isn't the usual copy of 70' s Prog) is serious... Also because the Oniric play so well in its mind... micky & Raffa... This is for you: |
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