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kenethlevine
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Topic: jethro tull vs strawbs Posted: June 17 2007 at 23:12 |
While Tull is by far the most successful of the folk-influenced prog
groups, Strawbs might be second. They both have vocalists that
people either love or hate, feature intelligent songwriting, strong
musicianship, more than passing references to old Englishe folk,
especially on certain albums, and are both still around
amazingly. While it's not exactly apples to apples, it might be
more so than Camel vs Rush. Vote away!
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raindance2007
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 23:43 |
I have 1 Strawbs album which is quite cool. But I have the whole Tull catalogue. I rate Tull better than Yes and Genesis, so it would be a tough for the Strawbs to rank close to Tull. But I look forward to more Strawbs cd's
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 23:45 |
The Strawbs are probably my favorite band. Even though Tull was my first real "prog" band, thanks to the radio singles, the Strawbs's music just grasps me in a way no other band's music does
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 23:55 |
At this point, two of my favorite bands. The Strawbs may be really good, but Tull at its prime was a force to be reckoned with, one that The Strawbs can never match. Close, but Jethro Tull
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 05:01 |
Don't care too much for Tull, surprisingly, I go with the Strawbs because they made 2 good albums - From the witchwood & Grave new world. But their next 3 albums kind of suck, except a couple of songs, don't be fooled by the good reviews they get, read Hugues Chantraine reviews to understand. :-)
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 05:03 |
I vote for Tull but only because I discovered Tull in 1988 and Strawbs in 2005!!!
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Cold Deep
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 07:41 |
Jethro Tull is the first folk-band I've listened, in this kind I appreciate Strawbs, Mostly Autumn, Fairport Convention, Indaco, Gazpacho and man more bands
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Hercules
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 07:42 |
Strawbs by a small margin.
Tull never did anything to quite match From the Witchwood and Grave New World, good though Thick as a Brick, Aqualung and Songs From the Wood are.
Hero and Heroine and Ghosts are also excellent.
Sadly, both bands produced some drivel in the late 70s.
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prognose
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 07:52 |
Hercules wrote:
Strawbs by a small margin.
Tull never did anything to quite match From the Witchwood and Grave New World, good though Thick as a Brick, Aqualung and Songs From the Wood are.
Hero and Heroine and Ghosts are also excellent.
Sadly, both bands produced some drivel in the late 70s.
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Thick as a brick is nothing short of brilliant. Heavy horses is awesome and a touch better than Songs from the wood
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kenethlevine
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 08:34 |
Baza wrote:
Don't care too much for Tull, surprisingly, I go with the
Strawbs because they made 2 good albums - From the witchwood &
Grave new world. But their next 3 albums kind of suck, except a couple
of songs, don't be fooled by the good reviews they get, read Hugues
Chantraine reviews to understand. :-) |
I just looked at those reviews and they seem a bit vitriolic (referring
the the apple being rotten is not really very nice! ).
The main criticisms seem to be around abandoning their roots, which I'd
argue is what made strawbs a lot more groundbreaking than, say Fairport
Convention or Steeleye Span. They took chances. Also, there
was some discussion about how some songs, without the mellotron, would
be uninteresting. I don't agree with that because most of them
would still be engaging folky songs - listen to Baroque and Roll for an
idea of how that plays out. But I wonder if KC's Epitaph would
sound as good without mellotron.
Yes, Strawbs do go for the verse-chorus -verse approach. But they
did in From the Witchwood too, as they did in all their early
albums. It's their heritage, and they did certainly stray from
that. Verse 2 of H&H is rather different from the other
verses! (it''s the basically acapella verse).
Also, Lay Down is one of the greatest rock songs ever to hit the
charts. Stormy Down was another great little song from Bursting
at The Seams - see my review. The fact that ithey
have a counttry music influence does not enter the picture for
me. It shows Strawbs range of influences. Even the most
Scottish sounding rock band on earth, Runrig, has plenty of country
influences.
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Eerichtho
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 08:53 |
Tull
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proglil49
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 09:28 |
Tull. TAAB is my favorite album.
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 09:43 |
Both bands are fantasticly good, but even though all Strawbs albums from 71-75 are excellent, Tull wins for having Passion Play (one of my alltime favorites) and TAAB.
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 16:16 |
I love EVERY Tull album except UNDER WRAPS so guess who win??
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 22:13 |
I voted, of course, for Tull. But if there were a second best prog folk group, it must be Traffic, not Strawbs IMHO.
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Posted: June 19 2007 at 05:30 |
I heard Grave new world and wasn't overly impressed on the first listen. I really like Hero and Heroin though
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Posted: June 19 2007 at 10:40 |
Only the Strawbs album(s) where Wakeman was on keys. Otherwise, I vote for Tull every time....
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progbaby
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Posted: June 19 2007 at 11:58 |
IHMO, The Strawbs do it way more for me than Tull. Never had a reason why. Seems like the melodies and songs are more moodier and etheral.
"Two Weeks Last Summer" by David Cousins from 1972 is just as good as any of the Strawbs best albums.
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seamus
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Posted: June 19 2007 at 12:34 |
STRAWBS for me!!!!
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kenethlevine
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Posted: June 19 2007 at 16:16 |
progbaby wrote:
IHMO, The Strawbs do it way more for me than Tull. Never had a reason why. Seems like the melodies and songs are more moodier and etheral.
"Two Weeks Last Summer" by David Cousins from 1972 is just as good as any of the Strawbs best albums. |
He has a new one coming out this month, "The Boy in the Sailor Suit". It includes a lot of the same people who were on TWLS. Initial reports are very positive
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