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Leningrad
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Posted: June 14 2007 at 19:24 |
rileydog22 wrote:
You go in a wooden box which is buried approximately 6 feet underground.
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How about nine, so we have an excuse to blast Caravan?
(But to be on topic, probably Heaven/Hell in my opinion, although I would love coming back as an eagle or other bird.)
Edited by Chameleon - June 14 2007 at 19:27
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Dean
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Posted: June 14 2007 at 19:34 |
rileydog22 wrote:
You go in a wooden box which is buried approximately 6 feet underground.
There is no afterlife. There is no reincarnation.
It scares the sh*t out of me.
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...and the last place you want to be when that happens is in a confined space.
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What?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 14 2007 at 20:20 |
9 Feet Underground and Halfway Between Heaven and Earth... are classic Richard Sinclair!
But yes, we die and that's it...
However... timor mortis conturbat me.
It does.
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Thadeus
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Posted: June 14 2007 at 21:01 |
I believe in Heaven/Hell.
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An old fart
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Posted: June 14 2007 at 22:59 |
The obvious answer is "how could I know". That's the rational part of me talking.
However, the spiritual part of me is hoping that we continue living in one way or another, because otherwise it wouldn't make any difference how we treat other people, ourselves, animals and environment.
Therefore I wish that we all will face some kind of a Great Court where we get what we deserve, which is a very scary thought too, because neither of us who die as an adult are innocent. On the other hand, I have always thought that no one deserves to be cast down to hell either. But I want to believe in Justice.
Two major things have happened in my life quite recently. My grandmother died late last year and a few weeks ago I became a father for the first time in my life. Somehow I connected these two things in my mind in an intuitive way and I started to think that perhaps dying is a bit like being born: you enter the unknown, you think that something is coming to an end (I believe that it's shocking for a baby to born), but in fact it's only a new beginning. This opens an interesting thought that maybe life/eternity is a neverending cycle of being born and dying.
But, once again, how could I know?
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"Make tea, not love"
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: June 15 2007 at 09:00 |
Not if you are cremated. That's what I want done, and then my ashes spread along the shores of Lake Ontario where I frequent for relaxation. The power of water!
Edited by StyLaZyn - June 15 2007 at 09:02
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Gnome
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 10:28 |
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asimplemistake
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 16:37 |
I believe in heaven/hell, but I can't be certain of this, so I voted "wouldn't know"
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tardis
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 18:13 |
Geck0 wrote:
We live and die and... yet... nothing, nothing at all. That's it.
Immortality (and thus Heaven) is scarier than mortality and death.
Peter Hammill knows it too.
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The concept of immortality sounds wonderful to me.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 18:21 |
Living endlessly, being perpetually bored, hearing Abba's "Waterloo" for the 20,484883rd time? Watching as the earth gets overcrowded and you won't be able to move... of course, unless you mean immortality in heaven itself... then you get to meet long dead people... you'll end up meeting people you have met before and hated. You will have to endlessly live your life with them, with former bosses, former girlfriends. You also will not age... I am sorry, but it is an awful concept.
Immortality is scarier than dying, yet dying is also scary.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 18:52 |
After Death is Post Death.
Or is it?
Death is after life.
So its Post Life?
Which is the same as Death!
Maybe the question should more logically be "Whats After Life"?
Answer...Death.
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tardis
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 18:54 |
Geck0 wrote:
Living endlessly, being perpetually bored, hearing Abba's "Waterloo" for the 20,484883rd time? Watching as the earth gets overcrowded and you won't be able to move... of course, unless you mean immortality in heaven itself... then you get to meet long dead people... you'll end up meeting people you have met before and hated. You will have to endlessly live your life with them, with former bosses, former girlfriends. You also will not age... I am sorry, but it is an awful concept.
Immortality is scarier than dying, yet dying is also scary.
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Who says we will have a concept of boredom, or even have the same bodies? We know nothing about immortality after death, and in what fashion we would experience it. There's no way we would know that we would end up living on the earth, or even exist in the same universe.
Edited by tardis - June 17 2007 at 18:55
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Dean
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 18:54 |
Snow Dog wrote:
After Death is Post Death.
Or is it?
Death is after life.
So its Post Life?
Which is the same as Death!
Maybe the question should more logically be "Whats After Life"?
Answer...Death.
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Like it.
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What?
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Komodo dragon
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 18:56 |
DECOMPOSION !
1.Death begins when the heart stops beating. Deprived of oxygen, a
cascade of cellular death commences. It begins with brain cells and
finishes with the skin cells. Death is therefore a process, rather than
an event. 2.Many kinds of organisms live by feeding on dead bodies. In the process,
their activities result in the decomposition of the body and the
recycling of nutrients. The dominant groups of organisms involved in
decomposition are bacteria, flies, beetles, mites and moths. Other
animals, mainly parasitoid wasps, predatory beetles and predatory
flies, feed on the animals that feed on the corpse. A dead body is
therefore an ecosystem of its own, in which different fauna arrive and
depart from the corpse at different times.
http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/
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rileydog22
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 19:44 |
tardis wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
We live and die and... yet... nothing, nothing at all. That's it.
Immortality (and thus Heaven) is scarier than mortality and death.
Peter Hammill knows it too.
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The concept of immortality sounds wonderful to me.
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I thought it sounded wonderful, and then I started thinking about how boring immortality would be (provoked by Still Life, actually), and now I see that it sucks either way.
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An old fart
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 22:18 |
The boredom of life or the joy of it depends on how much chances you have to choose how you live your life (how do you spend your time and with whom). I don't see any reason why a possible life after death would be automatically and by definition boring, because it lasts forever, if we have a chance to DO something interesting to us and avoid doing unpleasant things. I am perfectly aware that I can never listen (not to mention find) all the music that I would love, see enough films, read enough books, meet enough pleasant people, have enough sex (why other religions than Islam don't promise enough sex after death?), etc. in my lifetime, so I suppose I will still remain "hungry" for life at the moment of dying. To have a chance to continue doing that kind of things after death, that would be my heaven.
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"Make tea, not love"
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The Doctor
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 22:25 |
Komodo dragon wrote:
DECOMPOSION !
1.Death begins when the heart stops beating. Deprived of oxygen, a cascade of cellular death commences. It begins with brain cells and finishes with the skin cells. Death is therefore a process, rather than an event. 2.Many kinds of organisms live by feeding on dead bodies. In the process, their activities result in the decomposition of the body and the recycling of nutrients. The dominant groups of organisms involved in decomposition are bacteria, flies, beetles, mites and moths. Other animals, mainly parasitoid wasps, predatory beetles and predatory flies, feed on the animals that feed on the corpse. A dead body is therefore an ecosystem of its own, in which different fauna arrive and depart from the corpse at different times.
http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/
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I'm going to be cremated. Especially after talking about bacteria, flies, beetles, mites and moths eating away at my dead corpse. I have no interest in being part of the ecosystem of insects and bacteria after I'm dead.
Unfortunately for all of you, once I am dead, all of you will also disappear as you are all just a figment of my fevered, drunken imagination.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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rileydog22
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 22:45 |
An old fart wrote:
The boredom of life or the joy of it depends on how much chances you have to choose how you live your life (how do you spend your time and with whom). I don't see any reason why a possible life after death would be automatically and by definition boring, because it lasts forever, if we have a chance to DO something interesting to us and avoid doing unpleasant things. I am perfectly aware that I can never listen (not to mention find) all the music that I would love, see enough films, read enough books, meet enough pleasant people, have enough sex (why other religions than Islam don't promise enough sex after death?), etc. in my lifetime, so I suppose I will still remain "hungry" for life at the moment of dying. To have a chance to continue doing that kind of things after death, that would be my heaven. |
Faced with an infinite amount of time, you will eventually run out of entertaining things to do.
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stonebeard
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 00:17 |
It's always good talking about stuff as if we have any concept of what that stuff is.
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Psychedelia
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 06:52 |
i disagree with all this immortality would be bad malarcky. I dont believe you'd become eternally bored and have nothing to do. The world is forever changing and there is so much you could do, i dont think you would ever come to a point where there is literally nothing left.
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Another emotional suicide, overdosed on sentiment and pride
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