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listennow801
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1819 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:10 | |
i sent some muffins samples last week - didn't you get them bv?
i have both lps, but i think i have the 2 in 1 cd also geck0 - i'll check later & get back to you w/ info. [maybe some more muffins samples too ; )]
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:11 | |
No I must not have gotten them . James, I was making assumtions after enjoying the other four bands on that list .
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 01:14 | |
Let me check my e-mail for those links...
Nope, now let me check my inbox. Nope. Hmm... seems I've lost those The Muffins links. Edited by Geck0 - June 15 2007 at 01:17 |
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markj
Forum Newbie Joined: August 13 2006 Location: Mpls, MN Status: Offline Points: 36 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 06:49 | |
Comelade started with releasing minimalist material, and then went on to do sort of chamber rock with bands using toy instruments (and real instruments) - the sound's not too far removed from what L'Ensemble Raye are doing. I'd recommend finding a copy of Traffic D'abstraction (on 99 Records) - if it's still available - which is an entertaining, well-produced and executed disk of his (and others) compositions. I haven't heard anything new from him for several years, although I was stunned to find, in the gift shop at Gaudi's Casa Mila in Barcelona a couple weeks ago, a book and CD by him that I'd never seen before. Haven't taken the plastic off it yet, but it appears to be more compositions using a band with toy instruments. |
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chamberry
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 12:50 | |
Here's another band I would like to draw your attention to. I won't go
screaming like I did with Orthrelm since that didn't worked. Here's another one of my Brutal Prog discoveries: Zs.
Zs was formed in 2000. Zs makes music that is variously categorized as no-wave, post-jazz, brutal-chamber, brutal-prog, and post minimalist. Zs' music is angular, repetitive, and either very loud or very soft. While Zs has gone through several incarnations ranging from trios to sextets, the group presently consists of Charlie Looker(synthesizer/guitar), Ben Greenberg(guitar), Sam Hillmer(saxophone), and Ian Antonio(drums). Zs is often recognized for it's dual function as chamber ensemble and rock band. As a result of their cross-over ability Zs has worked with a diverse roster of performers and composers. Zs has worked with Animal Collective, Gang Gang Dance, Orthrelm, The Flying Luttenbachers, and Big A little a (Aa), as well as Joe Maneri, Christian Wolff, Louis Andriessen, and Petr Kotik. Zs also inhabits a diverse assortment of venues including lofts, galleries, rock clubs, and concert halls. Zs has recorded for labels Troubleman Unlimited, Planaria Recordings, Tzadik Records, Folding Cassettes, Gilgongo Records, Sockets CDrs, and Rice Control. Their new studio album "Arms" will be out in mid 2007 on Planaria Recordings. The members of Zs are also involved in a number of other projects including Seductive Sprigs, Extra Life, Moth, Regattas, Hunter-Gatherer, Yarn/Wire, and the Scenery Ensemble. Zs curate and DJ the monthly avantgarde music and art party "from B to Z" under the moniker "the B-Keepers". The activities of "the B-Keepers" as well as all Zs side projects is being documented by Zs' in-house CDR label f**kingA Show Releases. Some samples taken from their website ( http://www.zzzsss.com ): Olympics Bump Magnet Glyphs And more samples in their myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/zstheband Edited by chamberry - June 15 2007 at 12:52 |
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 17:09 | |
Oh, cham, don't you have anything like that which isn't minimalist? (Besides Orthrelm's debut) I seem to be the only person who can't stand minimalism. :(
What do you guys think of Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung (aka DAAU)? I'm about to download Domestic Wildlife, and from what I've heard they should be worthy of inclusion.
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Drakk
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 340 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 17:22 | |
Whoa, now you have me interested. I'll have to check these guys out. I seem to be on an Avantgarde binge right now. |
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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
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chamberry
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 17:26 | |
Hahaha. Sorry Ghandi. I'm a huge fan of minimalism so that's why I get so excited about these artists, but did you checked the samples? I didn't heard any minimalism in there (maybe in some parts, but not all) and they seem quite random instead of following one pattern.
I have We Need New Animals by DAAU and I like the album. There are even some rap moments in there too (Assaf told me it was their transitional album from chamber music to rap). Is Domestic Wildlife prior to We Need New Animals? I think the main reason why they aren't here is that they don't have much "rock" in their music to be considered for inclusion. Its not the only band that has the same problem. Others like Rachels and Die Knodel have trouble getting in because of the lack of rock in their music. |
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chamberry
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 17:28 | |
I'm very pleased with this new discovery as well. I think they would be a nice addition to the genre. |
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 17:28 | |
I am a big fan. We had long discussions both here and in the collab zone about adding them (me being in favour, then reconsidering and in favour again...).
Try their first two which are chamber music (with a rock attitude, it that makes sense). After that they experiment with electronics a bit and with hip hop (in their third especially). Still haven't got Domestic Wildlife but I'll get it sooner or later.
Also try Traktot - see the link in the DAAU website - http://www.daau.com/
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: June 15 2007 at 17:47 | |
I think Nobody Wants to Be and Magnet are minimalist, but you're right the other samples are more like free jazz patternless music. I wonder why repetitive was in the description then?
No, it's their newest. Hm, listening to the samples, I don't hear any rap whatsoever. Their website says that Domestic Wildlife is a product of their 2005 tour, so I guess they moved away from that. Edited by Ghandi 2 - June 15 2007 at 17:48 |
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avestin
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Posted: June 15 2007 at 20:14 | |
Yes, after Life Transmission (which is where the hip hop and other experimentations got in) they shifted back a bit, but haven't exactly returned to their starting point of the 1995 s/t.
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 00:48 | |
So far, Domestic Wildlife seems as rocky as Univers Zero. There's a drum in every song. But I'll get back to you on that. It's good, though.
I'm going to stop buying music for a while (too much money spent on it and I'm not devoting the proper amount of time to the albums I get), and I am planning on getting Ahvak and Electric Masada, and Of Natural History and In Glorious times. Edited by Ghandi 2 - June 16 2007 at 00:59 |
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listennow801
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1819 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 01:28 | |
I like DAUU, but I would def. not say they're one of the best. But it's all a matter of [personal] taste of course. What I would suggest, is that you list a few things which you like a lot - which give an idea of your personal taste*, and see if we can make some suggestions based on what you might really like, as opposed to what each of us does individually.
Also, if you are interested in chamber prog [you mentioned Volopuk], you should hear some Art Zoyd. Unfortunately, all that is in print is eh [later work] and the earlier is just available on vinyl, but I have some mp3s I can send you.
*e.g., I am guessing that you don't like your music too hard/intense/aggressive, maybe, if you don't like Crimson..? Correct me if I'm wrong..
Cleo Edited by listennow801 - June 16 2007 at 01:31 |
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 12:33 | |
No, not really. I didn't used to be able to tolerate metal, but with my like of Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and other avant groups who employ metal, I like some metal as long as it is balanced with enough non-metal. I just can't find Crimson interesting. Schizoid Man is the only song that interests me on ITCOTCK, and LTIA pt. 2 and Red are (to my ears) the same thing over and over again. It seems as if I should like them, since I like that bit of an intense edge and I enjoy improvisation, but I don't, even beyond the minimalism that irritates me. Yes, the samples here of Art Zoyd are fantastic, but I have given up on them for now because I can't find their early music anywhere, except for Le Marriage du Ciel..., which isn't quite their early period.
As for recommendations, I appreciate your help, but at this point I think I'm confused as to what I want; however, since I do know that I want the albums listed and you all seem to agree that they're good, I'll go with those and worry about what to do next later.
Geck0, I listened to Friday the 13th again and it was a little tough by itself. Before I had listened to it on the computer. Maybe I am losing my musical attention span, or maybe it's a bit too slow for listening on its own. :( Edited by Ghandi 2 - June 16 2007 at 18:40 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 20:51 | |
Friday the 13th?
I'm not sure I know that album. Oh, you mean Triskaidekaphobie... which means "Fear of the Number 13". Do you have Le Poison Qui Rend Fou as well? Edited by Geck0 - June 16 2007 at 20:52 |
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listennow801
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1819 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 20:52 | |
there's a disc by One Shot called friday the 13th
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 20:56 | |
Ah, yes, Vendredi-13. I've not heard it yet though.
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 21:08 | |
Anyone know this album? Could be interesting!
Paratactile label. Glass Cage is Gary Smith, Hugh Hopper and Shoji Hano. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: June 16 2007 at 21:10 | |
How did this Hugh Hopper related release escape my attention?
Sounds promising. Hopper has been to known to perform on some not so good stuff, but I have all confidence in him. Edited by Geck0 - June 16 2007 at 21:11 |
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