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    Posted: May 31 2007 at 19:51
Hey all,
 
I heard someone mention the term "Afro prog" recently, and I was wondering if there are any great African progressive rock bands and albums to discover?
 
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Me too, Osibisa's very good. Be sure to check out their self-titled and Woyaya.
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Fela Kuti?



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Trevor Rabin was from South Africa...does that count?
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Originally posted by puma puma wrote:

Trevor Rabin was from South Africa...does that count?

...and Bob Calvert too...
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Like all sub-genres, it's not really about where the artist was born is it?
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Probably not exactly what you're looking for, but the band Aka Moon draws heavily on central African rhythms. Outstanding band, highly recommended!
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Kenny Henson - ' Let us become Man ' is pure hypnotic conceptual prog. Unfortunately it is only my word as all records and files seem to have dissipated like sand between the toes. Oh apart from my very rare, precious vinyl on hand. It originates from South Africa in 1974 but as Easy livin says prog is basically a universal theme so country of origin is irrelevant.

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Originally posted by puma puma wrote:

Trevor Rabin was from South Africa...does that count?
 
 
Manfred Mann is also Soth Afirca borne.
 
as far as prof rock group outside Osibisan Assaigai (two albumůs on the Vertigo Swirl label, could fit. But there are certainly many African musicians who could easily be called progressive included in fusion and jazz rock.
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If you're going talk about prog albums INSPIRED by Africa, then Weather Report's BLACK MARKET must be one of the best: first rate jazz-fusion, with superb synths!
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Like all sub-genres, it's not really about where the artist was born is it?
 
I think fans of Chris MacGregor's Brotherhood Of Breathe would argue that! New jazz with a powerful South African influence. Indeed the Anglo Swiss label B&W, largely specialised in issuing recordings of South African jazz and fusion in the 90's (Dave Brubeck's sons were very active in that scene then too - recording and teaching in South Africa).
 
Not strictly  prog , but a fusion of southern African rhythms and Americana, in Paul Simon's Grace? Then Mali seems to be the home of a significant amount of award winnning "world music" for the last decade - one reason why the likes of Taj Mahal and Ry Cooder have separately recorded there with local musicians. And I like a lot of Rai fusion coming out of Algeria via France, e.g. Rimitti (check her Sidi Mansour for the considerable involvement of Fripp, Flea and some of the Mother's brass section), and  Rachid Taha - who has collaborated with Steve Hillage for over 20 years .
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South Africa has produced several progressive rock bands/artists worth listening. Smile
Canamii is the best symphonic rock band as far as I know, but PA doesn't list it .... Cry 
 
 <-- Canamii / Concept
 
 Also I own Tale. Tale released more than two albums at least. I own 2nd album Elysium Field. But it is less favorite album than Canamii / Concept.
 
  <-- Tale / Elysium Field
 
Africa is the weakest area for me .... CryEmbarrassed
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Some of Peter Gabriel's work?
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There's a not to bad jazzrock/fusion band from south africa: Abstract Truth. I've got their not so good debut and the very nice follow up Silver Trees. They got some hints in their music on what continent they  are from, but I guess they might as well have been swedish.

...And the Swedish Archimedes Badkar took inspiration from all over the place, Also africa

Then there's South African Psych/protoprog band Freedom's Children. But that's not afro prog either.
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Jo'Burg Hawk - eponimous
 
released on the Famous Charisma Label in 1972 more proto-prog than prog, but did feature a track called Dark Side Of The Moon.
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Pure african influences are very rare in prog, unlike eastern influences. It's rather in the world jazz field that you'll find some, with projects such as Walcott's "Codona".

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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2007 at 09:29
What I understand from my college days, is that African Tribal music, or rather the beats, contain many polyrhythms. (Over lay this thread with the drummer poll currently going on).  Many "drummers" each playing different beats in different time sigs. 
 
This almost could qualify as Prog a la Fripp.  Just lay some music on top of it and you are good to go!  Wink

Or did Gabriel already do this?


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Points: 846 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2007 at 18:08
Originally posted by Sir Hogweed Sir Hogweed wrote:

Some of Peter Gabriel's work?



Yeah, I think it was PG4 that had all the African vibe stuff, right?
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Points: 1751 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2007 at 18:25
Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Fela Kuti?


is he any good?



  
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