Forum Home Forum Home > Other music related lounges > Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The lonely people (Eleanor Rigby)
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedThe lonely people (Eleanor Rigby)
 Post Reply Post Reply
Poll Question: Who makes you more sad?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
10 [83.33%]
2 [16.67%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted

Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
RaślGuate View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 21 2006
Location: Guatemala
Status: Offline
Points: 146 		Direct Link To This Post Topic: The lonely people (Eleanor Rigby)
    Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:45
So, we know about these two lonely persons, created by the genius of The Beatles.
Eleanor Rigby works in the church and is ignored by everyone. No one showed up for her funeral, except for Father Mckenzie.
Father works hard all through the night, to write the words for a sermon that noone will hear.
They both make want to cryCry, buy I feel more sorrow for Father Mckenzie. He is an idealist, like me, and his beliefs encourage him to work in spite of being alone in the world.
Who do you think has the saddest story?
(Note: This belongs to the proto-prog lounge, but I couldn't create a poll there)
Back to Top
heyitsthatguy View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 17 2006
Location: Washington Hgts
Status: Offline
Points: 10094 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:47
interesting poll LOL this makes me sadder than both of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsQdrepGAc

watch and you'll understand


Back to Top
RaślGuate View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 21 2006
Location: Guatemala
Status: Offline
Points: 146 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:51
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

interesting poll LOL this makes me sadder than both of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsQdrepGAc

watch and you'll understand


Oh, Ok.
That was totally unexpected. Dead
Guess everyone is entitled to their interpretations of songs...
Back to Top
Atomic_Rooster View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 26 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:54
They don't make me sad, they're just cowardly losers
I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
Back to Top
Atavachron View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Offline
Points: 65268 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:56
harsh

Back to Top
RaślGuate View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 21 2006
Location: Guatemala
Status: Offline
Points: 146 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:59
Originally posted by Atomic_Rooster Atomic_Rooster wrote:

They don't make me sad, they're just cowardly losers

Come On! Haven't you ever felt lonely in some point of your life?
Even though circumstances aren't the same (you aren't a priest I suppose), the loneliness is the same, so sympathy works here.
Anyways, excuse my obsession for these two characters. I've just discoverd the song so I'm obsessed with it and I've felt lonely these past few weeks.
Back to Top
ClassicRocker View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 02 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 894 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2007 at 01:41
^^^ wow, 19 years old and never hearing Eleanor Rigby before...
You've been missing out, man.
Back to Top
Atomic_Rooster View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 26 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2007 at 01:47
Narfwitch


Edited by Atomic_Rooster - May 24 2007 at 18:40
I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2007 at 15:47
I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible..



One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.
Back to Top
NotAProghead View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Errors & Omissions Team

Joined: October 22 2005
Location: Russia
Status: Offline
Points: 7864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2007 at 18:38

Eleanor and "all the lonely people".

But those who watched "Yellow Submarine" remember (I hope) animations when "Eleanor Rigby" sounds - too many lonely people everywhere.
Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Back to Top
tuxon View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 21 2004
Location: plugged-in
Status: Offline
Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2007 at 22:04
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible..



One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.
 
Father McKenzy was there, so she wasn't entirely alone.
 
but who will be there for Father McKenzy, therefior he is more sad than Eleanor.
 
 
I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
Back to Top
The Whistler View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: August 30 2006
Location: LA, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 7113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2007 at 02:08
Originally posted by Atomic_Rooster Atomic_Rooster wrote:

They don't make me sad, they're just cowardly losers
 
Eleanor Rigby, she died, what a looozer!!! BWA HA HA!!!
"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
Back to Top
tardis View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: Victoria, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 14378 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2007 at 14:46
Neither...somehow I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for either one of them.
Back to Top
NotAProghead View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Errors & Omissions Team

Joined: October 22 2005
Location: Russia
Status: Offline
Points: 7864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2007 at 14:55
Originally posted by tardis tardis wrote:

Neither...somehow I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for either one of them.
Why?
Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Back to Top
tardis View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: Victoria, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 14378 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2007 at 15:15
They just don't seem real to me.
Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2007 at 07:15
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible.. One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.

 

Father McKenzy was there, so she wasn't entirely alone.

 

but who will be there for Father McKenzy, therefior he is more sad than Eleanor.

 

 


Another priest or vicar will have to bury him, so Mackenzy wont be alone..

I think I get the feel that Eleanor didn't know how to exist outside her routined existence working in the church, and so never formed any relationships. Makenzy, on the other hand must have chosen to be a minister.

There is not really even a suggestion of friendship between her and Makenzy. The line "Father Makenzy, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave" Almost sounds dismissive, certainly emotionally detatched from the grief one would feel after burying someone they knew well.
Back to Top
Floydian42 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 13 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 846 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2007 at 13:00
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible.. One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.

 

Father McKenzy was there, so she wasn't entirely alone.

 

but who will be there for Father McKenzy, therefior he is more sad than Eleanor.

 

 


Another priest or vicar will have to bury him, so Mackenzy wont be alone..

I think I get the feel that Eleanor didn't know how to exist outside her routined existence working in the church, and so never formed any relationships. Makenzy, on the other hand must have chosen to be a minister.

There is not really even a suggestion of friendship between her and Makenzy. The line "Father Makenzy, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave" Almost sounds dismissive, certainly emotionally detatched from the grief one would feel after burying someone they knew well.


I agree, Eleanor has it worse.
Back to Top
Dick Heath View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Jazz-Rock Specialist

Joined: April 19 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 12813 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2007 at 07:39
Now consider the philosophical positioning of ER with Yellow Submarine on Revolver......
The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS.
CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php
Host by PA's Dick Heath.

Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.160 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.