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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2007 at 16:26
1. Supper's Ready by Genesis
2. Gates of Delirium by Yes
3. Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd 
4. Close to the Edge by Yes
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence by Dream Theater
 
Yes is the king of the epic in my opinion.  Oddly enough I've always felt Gates of Delirium was far superior to CTTE...Am I the only one?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2007 at 17:30
  1. Transatlantic- All Of The Above: Simply majestic, this goes on for half an hour, but it paradoxically feels like a 30 AND a 10 minute song at the same time. Brilliant lyrics and the msicianship is stunning.
  2. Genesis- Suppers Ready: The archatypical prog epic that set the standard for decades, cleverly composed, with equally clever lyrics, musicianship and delivery.
  3. Dream Theater- A Change Of Seasons: The epitomy of progressive metal in 25 minutes.
  4. Pain Of Salvation- Beyond The Pale: Just short of 10 minutes but epic in every way, the highly charged culmination of a very emotional album.
  5. Echolyn- Mei: Simply stunning.

Honorable mentions go to:

Dream Theater- In The Name Of God (no, I'm not jocking)
Symphony X- The Odyssey
Fates Warning- A Pleasent Shade Of Grey
Green Carnation- Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness
Kayo Dot- The Manifold Curiosity
Jethro Tull- Thick As A Brick
Pink Floyd- Dogs
Spocks Beard- The Great Nothing
Opeth- The Drapery Falls
King Crimson- Larks Tongues' In Aspic Pt1
Wobbler- Hinterland
Saens-Bable Lights

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2007 at 18:03
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


Tangerine Dream: Fly And Collision Of Comas Sola (16:27)
Klaus Schulze: Voices of Syn (22:27)


Oh, If you like long "electronicals" I could recommend these:

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-02-spaces_in_spaces.mp3

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-05-a_walk_on_deep_snow.mp3

and also the other tracks of the album:

http://www.autoplate.org/releases.php?r=thn005


You mustn't be generally allergic against 4-to-the-floor Bassdrums, although.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 01:00
Originally posted by Endless Wire Endless Wire wrote:

1. Supper's Ready by Genesis
2. Gates of Delirium by Yes
3. Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd 
4. Close to the Edge by Yes
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence by Dream Theater
 
Yes is the king of the epic in my opinion.  Oddly enough I've always felt Gates of Delirium was far superior to CTTE...Am I the only one?
Depends on who you talk too, if you want a heavier and more monstrous sound with a beautiful ending, you want Gates. If you want a completely unique, sprawling and deeper lyrical meening kind of song, you want ctte 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 03:28
Lizard by King Crimson because .... it's KC Big%20smile
The Gates of Delirium by Yes because of the incredible instrumental part in the middle
Echoes by Pink Floyd because it's the first one I've listened to
Atom Heart Mother by Pink Floyd because it's soo trippy
Halleluwah by Can because I can Wink

Honourable mention: Magma's Riah Sahiltaak because it's different from all the rest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 04:06
Originally posted by EinTon EinTon wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


Tangerine Dream: Fly And Collision Of Comas Sola (16:27)
Klaus Schulze: Voices of Syn (22:27)


Oh, If you like long "electronicals" I could recommend these:

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-02-spaces_in_spaces.mp3

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-05-a_walk_on_deep_snow.mp3

and also the other tracks of the album:

http://www.autoplate.org/releases.php?r=thn005


You mustn't be generally allergic against 4-to-the-floor Bassdrums, although.


Thanks. I'm slightly allergic to 4-to-the-floor bassdrums and, predictably I preferred the Spaces in Spaces track to Walk on Deep.

Your other post reminded me that I should have included an Univers Zero track.

La Faulx 25:18 or The Funeral Plain 20:22. Can't decide.
Vangelis: The Dragon (15:17). Vangelis' easternsounding, thundering krautflirt from '71. All these now boring, old folks creating the dullest music on earth, were just so cool in the 70's. Its scary.




Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 04:15
I forgot some other great ones!
  • Caravan - Nine Feet Underground
  • Mike Oldfield - Amarok
  • Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
  • Transatlantic - Stranger in your Soul
  • Jethro Tull - Baker St. Muse
  • Camel - Lady Fantasy


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 04:17
Opeth - Ghost Of Perdition
The Mars Volta - Cassandra Gemini
Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
The Tangent - A Place In The Queue

Honourable Mentions:
And Then There Was Silence by Blind Guardian
Tetragrammaton by TMV
The Sky Moves Sideways by PT
Reflection by Tool

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 10:45
I could also add John Coltrane's Ascension   and Frank Zappa's "The Grand Wazoo". Embarrassed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2007 at 09:23
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Light of Darkness
Fates Warning - The Ivory Gates of Dream 
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Marillion - Grendel
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Rush - Hemispheres
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:46

Hard choice!

1. Genesis - Supper's Ready
2. Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
3. Symphony X - The Odyssey
4. Rush - 2112
5. Marillion - Grendel
 
Would have liked to put one of Yes' in but you know...
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 10:30
1. Tangerine Dream - Birth of Liquid Plejades. I probably listen to this track more than any other. Fantastic floating sounds.
 
2. McDonald & Giles - Birdman. Ex-Crimso members produce something very different from ITCOTCK but just as good.
 
3. Caravan - Nine Feet Underground. One of my favourite Canterbury tracks.
 
4. Klaus Schulze - Crystal Lake (especially the Xylotones part at the beginning - hypnotic!)
 
5. Grand Giraffe Venerator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. It's got everything, including the kitchen sink). Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 12:02
Ahhh, this is very hard! I can't arrange them by numbers. But I enjoy these:
 
King Crimson - Lizard - That jazzy brass part, oh lala.
 
King Crimson - Starless - One note solo, and some pretty impressive saxomophonin'
 
Yes - Close to the edge and Gates of delerium - Nostalgia :D
 
Wobbler - Hinterland - love when the beautifull main theme is arranged for classical guitar, can't believe they are Norwegian!
 
Camel - Ladyfantasy - I got special emotions tied to this song
 
Many good favourites here!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:11
besides the most common you guys list them here which I also love but I won't repeat myself. I am listing other good ones.
Renaissance: Ashes Are Burning, Song of scheheherazade.
Kansas Magnum Opus
Supertramp : Crime of the century, Enven in the Quietest Moments.
Porcupine Tree: Sky moves sideways 1-2, Wating Phase 1-2
Bill Bruford The sahara Of snow Pt. 1-2
Soft Machine Hazard Profile PT. 1-5
Yes Awaken, Gates of the Delirium
King Crimson: Larks' tongues in aspic part 1, the talking Drums Part 2
Nektar A Tab in the Ocean, Remmeber the future.
Gong:Master builder, The Isle of everywhere,You never blow yr Tip Forever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:24
"Grendel" by Marillion - Such a badass song from beginning to end, and the Megaman-esqe middle section is the peak of prog badassity.

"You Enjoy Myself" by Phish - These guys are so underrated in the prog community. They took a composition that was 9 minutes on the album and developed it into a 25 minute live masterpiece, featuring a groovy Yes-like opening, a rockin' middle section, a funky bass solo, and closing with a crazy ever changing vocal jam.

"Cassandra Gemini" by The Mars Volta - This song bombards the listener with aggressive melodies from beginning to end, and rarely slows down, except for a short ambient section. It's filled with so many great hooks and vocal lines that are so fun to sing along to.

"Close To The Edge" by Yes - Not much to say about this one, although I will say that the Yessymphonic version is probably the strongest.

"The Truth Will Set You Free" by The Flower Kings - This was the first Flower Kings song I heard and I fell in love instantly. I've only heard it once or twice since then, but I'm listening to it again right now and remembering how great it made me feel on the first listen.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:53
for me...  probably in stages..

1. Close to the Edge  - the perfect '18 minute long song'... not a hodgepodge of song fragments tied together, however well,  like Tarkus and Supper's Ready for example.  Again.. as I've posted in the past... if don't don't like a part of Supper's Ready.. wait for the next one....  here..  wait..... I"ll let  John McFerrin say it ...he's a pro at  ...I'm not...

' ELP had had Tarkus, Genesis had had Supper's Ready, King Crimson had had, er, Lizard, not to mention Jethro Tull with Thick as a Brick and so on. .

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).

So Yes took a different route, a route that was both simpler and more complicated than what had previously been attempted. And what was that route? Well, first of all, examine the basic structure of a pop-song, as mentioned in a comment below: Intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle8/instrumental-break/verse/chorus/outro. To this point, the general idea had been to make the basic verse and chorus melodies as compact as possible, with a minimal amount of development and deconstruction. But, smart men they were, Yes realized that this structure could just as well support lengthy, intensely developed and complex verse melodies. And so they went this route, and in essence created the world's first 19-minute pop song.


I know there are scores of articles out there on the musical structure of Close to the Edge.  It's at the top of the list by any objective standard..... as it should be. It was unique... and the quality speaks for itself. 


2. Tarkus

Fabuously subtle lyrically,  depending on how you read it... and musically...  far superior in shear display of talent than any of the other similar 'cut and paste.

will finish list later...  my suppers's ready...  hahahha.. Need to think on it as well. Those first two or sort of no-brainers in my book.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 18:36
ahhh... back to it.. now that the pit has been sated.

having covered the top epic song and top epic 'cut and paste'

the epic album.....  and should be no surprise

3. Tales from Topographic Oceans.

an grand epic across 2 LP's of a grand symphony in 4 movements.  Before anyone who bothers to care flames me... listen to the album... closely.  The 4 'epics'  are acutally parts of a larger epic.  They are all related.  I never caught it until someone a hell of a lot smarter than I pointed it out hahah.

Next up... epic instrumental

4. A Saucerful of Secrets...

forget the instrumental w**kfests that say nothing. This one does.. an instrumental epic that predates the theme  that Yes did with Gates of Delirium by YEARS.  More subtle.. and thus...  once you strip away the chrome  and all the bells and whistles.  A far more interesting epic.

last up....  simply personal preference here... for shear quality....

No surprise to any who know me....

5.Ys -  forget the track listing.... and find Andreas translation of it here at PA's.   What's more epic than the retelling of a man's journeys and encounters with death.   Simply an incredbile epic that flows with the same brutal intensity throughout the whole album.  Completely different that anything that comes to mind from the so called masters of prog. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2007 at 16:17
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).



Do you know Aksak Maboul's "cinema" (RIO-style) ? It's  also very  cohesive musical piece, not a "suite" of different pieces -  although not a conventional "pop song" with verse and refrain. It's characterized by several musical "themes" which reappear in many parts of the piece, but always  a bit different arranged and in a different mood.

The "main theme" is even played forward and backward at the beginning and the end of the piece.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2007 at 17:59
Originally posted by EinTon EinTon wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).



Do you know Aksak Maboul's "cinema" (RIO-style) ? It's  also very  cohesive musical piece, not a "suite" of different pieces -  although not a conventional "pop song" with verse and refrain. It's characterized by several musical "themes" which reappear in many parts of the piece, but always  a bit different arranged and in a different mood.

The "main theme" is even played forward and backward at the beginning and the end of the piece.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2007 at 21:36
You can download it here:

http://www.musicload.de/item.ml?releaseid=1734856_2

it's track 6-9 - they have split the piece in its four parts...


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