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Poll Question: Who makes you more sad?
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    Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:45
So, we know about these two lonely persons, created by the genius of The Beatles.
Eleanor Rigby works in the church and is ignored by everyone. No one showed up for her funeral, except for Father Mckenzie.
Father works hard all through the night, to write the words for a sermon that noone will hear.
They both make want to cryCry, buy I feel more sorrow for Father Mckenzie. He is an idealist, like me, and his beliefs encourage him to work in spite of being alone in the world.
Who do you think has the saddest story?
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interesting poll LOL this makes me sadder than both of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsQdrepGAc

watch and you'll understand


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Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

interesting poll LOL this makes me sadder than both of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsQdrepGAc

watch and you'll understand


Oh, Ok.
That was totally unexpected. Dead
Guess everyone is entitled to their interpretations of songs...
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They don't make me sad, they're just cowardly losers
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Points: 146 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2007 at 23:59
Originally posted by Atomic_Rooster Atomic_Rooster wrote:

They don't make me sad, they're just cowardly losers

Come On! Haven't you ever felt lonely in some point of your life?
Even though circumstances aren't the same (you aren't a priest I suppose), the loneliness is the same, so sympathy works here.
Anyways, excuse my obsession for these two characters. I've just discoverd the song so I'm obsessed with it and I've felt lonely these past few weeks.
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^^^ wow, 19 years old and never hearing Eleanor Rigby before...
You've been missing out, man.
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Edited by Atomic_Rooster - May 24 2007 at 18:40
I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible..



One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.
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Eleanor and "all the lonely people".

But those who watched "Yellow Submarine" remember (I hope) animations when "Eleanor Rigby" sounds - too many lonely people everywhere.
Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible..



One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.
 
Father McKenzy was there, so she wasn't entirely alone.
 
but who will be there for Father McKenzy, therefior he is more sad than Eleanor.
 
 
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Originally posted by Atomic_Rooster Atomic_Rooster wrote:

They don't make me sad, they're just cowardly losers
 
Eleanor Rigby, she died, what a looozer!!! BWA HA HA!!!
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Neither...somehow I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for either one of them.
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Originally posted by tardis tardis wrote:

Neither...somehow I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for either one of them.
Why?
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They just don't seem real to me.
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Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible.. One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.

 

Father McKenzy was there, so she wasn't entirely alone.

 

but who will be there for Father McKenzy, therefior he is more sad than Eleanor.

 

 


Another priest or vicar will have to bury him, so Mackenzy wont be alone..

I think I get the feel that Eleanor didn't know how to exist outside her routined existence working in the church, and so never formed any relationships. Makenzy, on the other hand must have chosen to be a minister.

There is not really even a suggestion of friendship between her and Makenzy. The line "Father Makenzy, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave" Almost sounds dismissive, certainly emotionally detatched from the grief one would feel after burying someone they knew well.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I feel more for Eleanor. The idea of no one being at your funeral is horrible.. One of the Beatles best songs, IMO. Very moving.

 

Father McKenzy was there, so she wasn't entirely alone.

 

but who will be there for Father McKenzy, therefior he is more sad than Eleanor.

 

 


Another priest or vicar will have to bury him, so Mackenzy wont be alone..

I think I get the feel that Eleanor didn't know how to exist outside her routined existence working in the church, and so never formed any relationships. Makenzy, on the other hand must have chosen to be a minister.

There is not really even a suggestion of friendship between her and Makenzy. The line "Father Makenzy, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave" Almost sounds dismissive, certainly emotionally detatched from the grief one would feel after burying someone they knew well.


I agree, Eleanor has it worse.
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