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Floydoid
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 12:12 |
Norbert wrote:
many claim... Piper by Floyd as the first real prog album. |
I'd classify Piper as a psychedelic album rather than prog... only Interstellar Overdrive can really be considered to be a prog track... but then again psychedelia was the forerunner of prog.
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Dim
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 18:30 |
I would leave it at in the court
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 23:39 |
The definitive prog band would definitely be Supersonic Rainbow they're only the most awesome band ever assembled. They've got the writing skillz of Yes, Beefheart, and KC, with distinctive and provocative vocals and awesome heroics in the solo department. Plus, they all look awesome and are really hardcore awesome guys, I hang with them all the time, we sit around joking about how crappy all pop musicians are and how pretentious it is to call themselves artists, because there is nothing artistic about their music. Kool guys.
But really, KC
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Anguiad
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 15:04 |
Even though I wasn't lucky enough to live in the golden era, I noticed seven bands through this site that fit nicely in the prog rock classic terms:
(in no particular order):
-Pink Floyd
-King Crimson
-Yes
-Jethro Tull
-Genesis
-Rush
-Emerson Lake & Palmer
These bands are the greatest ever, considered classics by everyone, but not loved by everyone.
There are ten more bands, not precisely classics, but important bands, in a way or another:
(no order again):
-Van Der Graaf Generator
-Camel
-Gentle Giant
-Porcupine Tree
-Frank Zappa
-Dream Theater
-Marillion
-Umm...I am not sure about the other three. Pehaps Can? Caravan? IQ? Flower Kings? Tool? It is your call, put your other three there. I am still a prog amateur.
So choose the one you like! One of the grand seven or from the other"ten". The one you choose is your favourite and not necessarily the best.
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clarke2001
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 16:15 |
Anguiad wrote:
Even though I wasn't lucky enough to live in the golden era, I noticed seven bands through this site that fit nicely in the prog rock classic terms:
(in no particular order):
-Pink Floyd
-King Crimson
-Yes
-Jethro Tull
-Genesis
-Rush
-Emerson Lake & Palmer
These bands are the greatest ever, considered classics by everyone, but not loved by everyone.
There are ten more bands, not precisely classics, but important bands, in a way or another:
(no order again):
-Van Der Graaf Generator
-Camel
-Gentle Giant
-Porcupine Tree
-Frank Zappa
-Dream Theater
-Marillion
-Umm...I am not sure about the other three. Pehaps Can? Caravan? IQ? Flower Kings? Tool? It is your call, put your other three there. I am still a prog amateur.
So choose the one you like! One of the grand seven or from the other"ten". The one you choose is your favourite and not necessarily the best. ![](smileys/smiley1.gif) |
Nice list. Three to add: Soft Machine, Magma and Gong...or Caravan. Or...
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william314159
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 18:34 |
Nickleback!!!
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 19:10 |
Anguiad wrote:
Even though I wasn't lucky enough to live in the golden era, I noticed seven bands through this site that fit nicely in the prog rock classic terms:
(in no particular order):
-Pink Floyd
-King Crimson
-Yes
-Jethro Tull
-Genesis
-Rush
-Emerson Lake & Palmer
These bands are the greatest ever, considered classics by everyone, but not loved by everyone.
There are ten more bands, not precisely classics, but important bands, in a way or another:
(no order again):
-Van Der Graaf Generator
-Camel
-Gentle Giant
-Porcupine Tree
-Frank Zappa
-Dream Theater
-Marillion
-Umm...I am not sure about the other three. Pehaps Can? Caravan? IQ? Flower Kings? Tool? It is your call, put your other three there. I am still a prog amateur.
So choose the one you like! One of the grand seven or from the other"ten". The one you choose is your favourite and not necessarily the best. ![](smileys/smiley1.gif) |
bahh. I'd put Gentle Giant in the top over Rush or Gentle Giant any day as far as classics go, but whatever
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Fragile
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 20:25 |
[QUOTE=Ixtlan]Only YES reached the top of the mountain, as short-lived as it was.[/QUOTE
How was it short lived? Yes gave the prog world six gems;TYA,Fragile,Close to the Edge(the greatest music ever written) Tales,Relayer ,and Going for the One, hardly short lived.even Tormato in reflection was good, but not great.
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Dim
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 20:59 |
Fragile wrote:
[QUOTE=Ixtlan]Only YES reached the top of the mountain, as short-lived as it was.[/QUOTE
How was it short lived? Yes gave the prog world six gems;TYA,Fragile,Close to the Edge(the greatest music ever written) Tales,Relayer ,and Going for the One, hardly short lived.even Tormato in reflection was good, but not great.
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You are one of the smartest people I have ever met! The Yes album-going for the one are all albums that define Prog
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 21:44 |
I don't know about Tales as a gem... talk about obtuse
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Gianthogweed
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Posted: April 26 2007 at 22:57 |
Spirit of prog: King Crimson
Sound of prog: Yes
Personality: Jethro Tull
Popularity: Pink Floyd
Compositional Quality: Genesis
I think those are the big 5.
I would include ELP for Showmanship, but they kind of burned out too quickly.
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clarke2001
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 10:48 |
Gianthogweed wrote:
Spirit of prog: King Crimson
Sound of prog: Yes
Personality: Jethro Tull
Popularity: Pink Floyd
Compositional Quality: Genesis
I think those are the big 5.
I would include ELP for Showmanship, but they kind of burned out too quickly. |
Well put, Hogweed! ![Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif) You captured the essence!
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prog4evr
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 05:37 |
micky wrote:
Floyd King Crimson ELP Yes.
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What is it about PF that is prog? I agree with the other three, but the fourth band to define prog for me would be Camel...
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 05:40 |
It's probably ELP
..and Floyd has little to do with definitive Prog, IMO
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Prophet
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 06:22 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Hey I just joined this site and figured it would be a good way to introduce myself to the forums by asking a good question: What is the band that defines prog rock?
I am a major yes fan and that is how I would define prog, they use weird time signatures, make 20 minuete, epic, layered songs, and they are all around musically talented. Despite they're lack of concept albums Yes (to me) is a definative prog band. |
It's been studied in the Encyclopedia of Music that common Rush fan defines the ultimate progressive music with a new Rush record. And now Hare Krishnas have joined them!
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Dean
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 06:52 |
There is no definative Prog band and no single band defines Prog - that for me is the joy of the genre.
All of the bands mentioned thus far epitomise what it is to be Prog, but none of them definitively define it.
There are no rules to what is and what is not Prog, it is not a narrow genre like Black Metal or Ska-punk, this is why there are so many discussions on this forum about who should and shouldn't be in the Archive.
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What?
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 16:08 |
For emotions in music: RENAISSANCE
For all other reasons: YES, ELP, PFM, GG, VDGG, KC, LE ORME, BMS, MARILLION...
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debrewguy
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 17:06 |
If it's not AC/DC it might be prog or prog related
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AirKuhl
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Posted: May 22 2007 at 17:01 |
The first rock album that blew away all others before it with completely new and groundbreaking new sounds, new tools, new production techniques, new arrangements, etc. is Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. Thus, it's the first prog rock album. It you don't believe me, ask the members of all the other bands mentioned here, most will tell you the same. (based on interviews I've read)
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Sckxyss
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Posted: May 22 2007 at 17:12 |
AirKuhl wrote:
The first rock album that blew away all others before it with completely new and groundbreaking new sounds, new tools, new production techniques, new arrangements, etc. is Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. Thus, it's the first prog rock album. It you don't believe me, ask the members of all the other bands mentioned here, most will tell you the same. (based on interviews I've read) |
Even if you think it is the first, is it really the one that best defines prog?
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