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    Posted: May 16 2007 at 06:00
For anyone and everyone who hates illegal music downloading devaluing the quality and art of music and thus destroying the industry as we know it, please issue your comments here and ignore those who seek to create ruin and disaster.

I also beg of you not to post coments on illegal ones as that shows that you gave an ounce of care to see what it was about whereas you should ignore it cxompletely and thus give the user zero satisfaction. If you don't read it then you don't think of it and then you can't be part of the problem should it unfold.

Anyway, just trying to do a good thing, I hope you all take the lead.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 06:21
Support where support is needed, it's most welcome.

Welcome to the campaign!!!Hug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 06:47
I support legal downloading too. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 07:24
I don't support downloads at all.
 
I want substance. I want tangible. I want a booklet with pretty pictures. I want a free patch and stickers. I want a poster of the pyramids. I want free post-cards and art prints. I want a gate-fold sleave with original artwork by Dave McKean or Roger Dean. I want an insert with a list of forthcoming realses from the same lable. I want a lyric sheet. I want hidden tracks and bonus material. I want a free making-of DVD. I want to read the thanks list to see if anyone I know is on it. I want to know who played 'cello on track three.
 
And if there is a small piece of plastic amongst all that that contains some music as well then all the better.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 07:26
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

I don't support downloads at all.
 
I want substance. I want tangible. I want a booklet with pretty pictures. I want a free patch and stickers. I want a poster of the pyramids. I want free post-cards and art prints. I want a gate-fold sleave with original artwork by Dave McKean or Roger Dean. I want an insert with a list of forthcoming realses from the same lable. I want a lyric sheet. I want hidden tracks and bonus material. I want a free making-of DVD. I want to read the thanks list to see if anyone I know is on it. I want to know who played 'cello on track three.
 
And if there is a small piece of plastic amongst all that that contains some music as well then all the better.
 
 
I agree with you there but for me it is difficult to find time to go to CD shops and mail order is very expensive to Greece. So starting downloads seems like a logical step. After all, I already have a good stack of CDs. I will continue to buy CDs from time to time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 08:33
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

I don't support downloads at all.
 
I want substance. I want tangible. I want a booklet with pretty pictures. I want a free patch and stickers. I want a poster of the pyramids. I want free post-cards and art prints. I want a gate-fold sleave with original artwork by Dave McKean or Roger Dean. I want an insert with a list of forthcoming realses from the same lable. I want a lyric sheet. I want hidden tracks and bonus material. I want a free making-of DVD. I want to read the thanks list to see if anyone I know is on it. I want to know who played 'cello on track three.
 
And if there is a small piece of plastic amongst all that that contains some music as well then all the better.
 


What you want and what you get ... Wink

Seriously: I agree that it makes no sense to download a CD legally for the same price which you would pay for the real CD. My suggestion for you: Try http://www.emusic.com. There you get unencrypted high quality mp3s at a price which is often quite cheaper than the actual CD (depends on the subscription model and on how many tracks the album has). Personally I don't use the website for the albums of my top 10 favorite artists because for those I still want the "real" thing, but for other artists which I simply want to check out I can afford the extra €20/month, which allows me to download 75 tracks.Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 09:00
I have no problems with destroying the industry as we know it, because it sucks and is ripping off both artist and consumer alike - consumers, to the Recording Industry ASS. are pirates until proven innocent and I HATE those anti-piracy messages you get on DVDs that bona-fide punters like me can't skip through - but I am TOTALLY against illegal downloading Big%20smile
 
...I don't like downloading music either - like others, I want something tangible for my money, but occasionally I'll buy a track just to get the taste.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 09:53
Not trying to be the eternal pessimist here but these threads very rapidly degenerate and I will be keeping an eye on this one.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 10:00
To be fair, this is the only one supporting other ways to download and allowing users to suggest legal, cheap and effective ways to get ahold of prog music. And, thanks to Mr MikeEnRegalia I have signed up to emusic! Anyway, probably a good idea to keep an eye on it although I trust that it will be kept abuse-free! Big%20smile  Anyway...

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I have no problems with destroying the industry as we know it, because it sucks and is ripping off both artist and consumer alike - consumers, to the Recording Industry ASS. are pirates until proven innocent and I HATE those anti-piracy messages you get on DVDs that bona-fide punters like me can't skip through - but I am TOTALLY against illegal downloading Big%20smile
 
...I don't like downloading music either - like others, I want something tangible for my money, but occasionally I'll buy a track just to get the taste.

I base my thoughts on whether I like the band through free streaming. If I like it then I buy it somehow. Either ebay, amazon, play.com or anything like that. I just can't stand waiting for a bar to load cause i like the booklets and cases and track lists and paper-based lyric sheets and such.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:18
Am I allowed to start an 'illegal downloads' thread?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:19
Originally posted by Kid-A Kid-A wrote:

Am I allowed to start an 'illegal downloads' thread?
 
Dunno......try it!Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:21
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Kid-A Kid-A wrote:

Am I allowed to start an 'illegal downloads' thread?
 
Dunno......try it!Wink
 
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I wonder what  "account suspended" means? Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:30
^ Way to do exactly what the topic starter wanted you not to do. Stern%20Smile

PA does not condone illegal activity. Ever. You have broke a rule.

I bet an admin will be here shortly....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 13:45
Originally posted by Frank Zoppa Frank Zoppa wrote:

Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

^ Way to do exactly what the topic starter wanted you not to do. Stern%20SmilePA does not condone illegal activity. Ever. You have broke a rule.I bet an admin will be here shortly....


Are you suggesting that opinions are censored here???


No but your post does break this rule.

5. No Illegal activities. Posts and threads promoting or facilitating file swapping, drug abuse, or any other forum of illegal activity are not permitted. Any such posts will be deleted, and the member warned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 13:58
Originally posted by Frank Zoppa Frank Zoppa wrote:



Looking around at many recording artists I don't see many that are poverty stricken. For me they are grossly overpaid and want even more. If they do have problems financially maybe they should get a proper job like everyone else has to.
 
Now that's the kind of sucky, bigoted and blindfolded attitude we need to fight.
 
Not every artist is born rich, and it tends to be the pretty ones that attract the big piles of cash, while talented people slave away.
 
Imagine if Mozart had got a proper job because he was short of a bob or two (which he constantly was)?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 14:07
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Frank Zoppa Frank Zoppa wrote:

Looking around at many recording artists I don't see many that are poverty stricken. For me they are grossly overpaid and want even more. If they do have problems financially maybe they should get a proper job like everyone else has to.

 

Now that's the kind of sucky, bigoted and blindfolded attitude we need to fight.

 

Not every artist is born rich, and it tends to be the pretty ones that attract the big piles of cash, while talented people slave away.

 

Imagine if Mozart had got a proper job because he was short of a bob or two (which he constantly was)?


FRANK ZOPPA...... have you read Nick Barrett's post? £7,500PA is not grossly overpaid (by ANY standards)....... proper job? could you BE any more insulting? Nick and I run toff records together, we work (on average) 6 days a week, from 7am until about midnight..... sometimes more, I also work at a part time job to help out financially.... I can't commit to a full time job becuase of the workload here at Toff.
We do this becuase we are PASSIONATE about what we do, we are passionate about this all consuming music business. We also believe in the goodwill of the fans to buy the music that they love.

Edited by prog-chick - May 16 2007 at 14:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 14:10
^ It was Frank Zoppa that made the statement and Certif1ed was agreeing with you....Stern%20Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2007 at 14:13
CERTIF!ED I AM SO SORRY

Really I am genuinely sorry, I have done you a diservice, (probably why I was so shocked.....I thought it odd that you had said such a thing!)

Please accept my apology!

Rach x

I edited the post I made...... Gosh.....have I got egg on MY face!!!

Cheers, PIML!

Edited by prog-chick - May 16 2007 at 14:14
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