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rileydog22
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Posted: May 19 2007 at 20:20 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Speesh wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
^ Watch how fast society crumbles when that becomes the widespread belief. |
Well I certainly hope that isn't the case. Though based on shallow observations I've made we may already be heading down that pipe. What makes you say that?
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Without a widespread belief in the sanctity of marriage(not necessarily in a religious sense) there will be a breakdown of the family unit. The family is the basic building block of society as generally noted by socialogists and historians. You'll be hard pressed to find a society without strong family units, or similar extended units such as clans. They just don't exist. |
Just because one doesn't believe in the existance of a supreme being doesn't mean one cannot have a strong, cohesive family. I hate when religious people assume that athiests are evil people incapable of having morals/respecting their marriage/functioning in society/not destroying the world.
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: May 19 2007 at 20:16 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Speesh wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
^ Watch how fast society crumbles when that becomes the widespread belief. |
Well I certainly hope that isn't the case. Though based on shallow observations I've made we may already be heading down that pipe. What makes you say that?
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Without a widespread belief in the sanctity of marriage(not necessarily in a religious sense) there will be a breakdown of the family unit. The family is the basic building block of society as generally noted by socialogists and historians. You'll be hard pressed to find a society without strong family units, or similar extended units such as clans. They just don't exist. |
It'll all change when I come into power...
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
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Posted: May 19 2007 at 17:48 |
Speesh wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
^ Watch how fast society crumbles when that becomes the widespread belief. |
Well I certainly hope that isn't the case. Though based on shallow observations I've made we may already be heading down that pipe. What makes you say that?
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Without a widespread belief in the sanctity of marriage(not necessarily in a religious sense) there will be a breakdown of the family unit. The family is the basic building block of society as generally noted by socialogists and historians. You'll be hard pressed to find a society without strong family units, or similar extended units such as clans. They just don't exist.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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tardis
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Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 14:07 |
18 ---- on the top of a skateboard ramp.
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Speesh
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Location: NJ / VT
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 14:05 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
^ Watch how fast society crumbles when that becomes the widespread belief. |
Well I certainly hope that isn't the case. Though based on shallow observations I've made we may already be heading down that pipe. What makes you say that?
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StyLaZyn
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Location: United States
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 14:01 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
^ Watch how fast society crumbles when that becomes the widespread belief. |
We are witnessing it now. Also note that in the USA, there is a serious uptightness with sex.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 13:03 |
^ Watch how fast society crumbles when that becomes the widespread belief.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Speesh
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 12:25 |
I was born and raised as a Catholic but now I can't get far enough away from it. But I'll agree with Equality that I'm glad there are practicing Catholics. There are far too many people with my beliefs who use them as an excuse to have a bad moral code.
But fairly recently, I've come to my own realizations that there is nothing sacred about sex or marriage. I just turned 18 and I'm planning on losing it as soon as I can.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 12:05 |
Didn't happen yet, and won't for awhile. Marriage is a ways away.
There are still some practicing Catholics left in this world thankfully.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 17 2007 at 16:45 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 17 2007 at 07:31 |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 22:50 |
I would be happy to duel you
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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rileydog22
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 21:31 |
Atomic_Rooster wrote:
Those are all lies, Fripp is a perpetual virgin, as everyone knows
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Yo, if you've got a problem with Sid Smith, you've got a problem with ME!
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 00:45 |
Those are all lies, Fripp is a perpetual virgin, as everyone knows
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
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Points: 6336
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 00:41 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
rileydog22 wrote:
Prog-jester wrote:
BTW, won't you dare to ask The Whis...I mean, Robert "the Almighty" Fripp if he still a...u know... |
Actually, the Frippster got The Clap in 1969.
Don't ask how I know that
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I think with the general promiscuity and the novelty of the birth control pill (still less than a decade in 69), and no-one using preservatives, mostly everybody in the sexual revolution caught tyhe clap at one point or another.
As to you knowing about it, you probably read his diary notes published all over the place.
Only Steve Howe managed to catch it otherwise in 72. |
Nope, it was Sid Smith's book. So there!
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1969?... how old was he then?... like 22?... mmm, well... I guess I can forgive him, just because he is the Fripp
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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rileydog22
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Location: New Jersey
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 21:53 |
Sean Trane wrote:
rileydog22 wrote:
Prog-jester wrote:
BTW, won't you dare to ask The Whis...I mean, Robert "the Almighty" Fripp if he still a...u know... |
Actually, the Frippster got The Clap in 1969.
Don't ask how I know that
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I think with the general promiscuity and the novelty of the birth control pill (still less than a decade in 69), and no-one using preservatives, mostly everybody in the sexual revolution caught tyhe clap at one point or another.
As to you knowing about it, you probably read his diary notes published all over the place.
Only Steve Howe managed to catch it otherwise in 72. |
Nope, it was Sid Smith's book. So there!
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 11:38 |
cuncuna wrote:
I've always thought that the idea of "waiting until married" can be some sort of a problem. Low performance, pain maybe. Though I must admit it must be exciting somehow. |
Yeah!! It sounds a bit like La Fontaine's fox saying that those grapes he yearned for and couldn't catch are not ripe enough anyway!!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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cuncuna
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Location: Chile
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 11:03 |
I've always thought that the idea of "waiting until married" can be some sort of a problem. Low performance, pain maybe. Though I must admit it must be exciting somehow.
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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NutterAlert
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 10:58 |
I've always gone in for asexual reproduction through binary fission myself.
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 10:50 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Prog-jester wrote:
BTW, won't you dare to ask The Whis...I mean, Robert "the Almighty" Fripp if he still a...u know... |
Actually, the Frippster got The Clap in 1969.
Don't ask how I know that
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I think with the general promiscuity and the novelty of the birth control pill (still less than a decade in 69), and no-one using preservatives, mostly everybody in the sexual revolution caught tyhe clap at one point or another.
As to you knowing about it, you probably read his diary notes published all over the place.
Only Steve Howe managed to catch it otherwise in 72.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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