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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2007 at 05:49
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=120651


   

 
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^ That one I gues it should be already deleted; there are some strict rules about text formating.
 
Now, I have to bring this to the attention of the community: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=121137
Ben-Rushismylife is now in full-prog mode! "... what is now a permanent member of my top 5 favourite bands list, Rush" !!! Incredible! Shocked Next thing we know he'll be talking about "Rush, the band that brought him into prog, when young" - but do we want that? LOL Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1800iareyay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:06
i don't see how he's arrogant. He simply fails to say anything of use and his grammar's pretty band (has he heard of conjunctions?). I don't expect a track by track review from everyone (God that would be awful), but he basicaly just said wait till you hear this. Why bother?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony R Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:07
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i don't see how he's arrogant. He simply fails to say anything of use and his grammar's pretty band (has he heard of conjunctions?). I don't expect a track by track review from everyone (God that would be awful), but he basicaly just said wait till you hear this. Why bother?
 
I meant that this reviewer is a serial offender....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:16
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i don't see how he's arrogant. He simply fails to say anything of use and his grammar's pretty band (has he heard of conjunctions?). I don't expect a track by track review from everyone (God that would be awful), but he basicaly just said wait till you hear this. Why bother?
 
I meant that this reviewer is a serial offender....
 
Even if you hate track-by-track reviews (then you'd dislike mineBig%20smile), when we're talking about not-yet-released album, we should at least see something in the text that refers to specific parts in the album so that we can guess (only GUESS) that the reviewer has actually HEARD the album... I could write that same review and I haven't heard the album! (nor do i plan to do it until june 5)... Lighthouse is a good forum member but this review should be under observation, as the other ones, even though they're 5-star ones....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1800iareyay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:22
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i don't see how he's arrogant. He simply fails to say anything of use and his grammar's pretty band (has he heard of conjunctions?). I don't expect a track by track review from everyone (God that would be awful), but he basicaly just said wait till you hear this. Why bother?
 
I meant that this reviewer is a serial offender....
 
Even if you hate track-by-track reviews (then you'd dislike mineBig%20smile), when we're talking about not-yet-released album, we should at least see something in the text that refers to specific parts in the album so that we can guess (only GUESS) that the reviewer has actually HEARD the album... I could write that same review and I haven't heard the album! (nor do i plan to do it until june 5)... Lighthouse is a good forum member but this review should be under observation, as the other ones, even though they're 5-star ones....
Oh, I don't hate track by track reviews (most of mine are, as a matter of fact), I just think it would be so cumbersome to read through, say, Close to the Edge's reviews if there were 500 of the lengthy buggers. God, think I'd run head first into my computer. And i fully agree with your assement. There is another written review for SC (a track by track no less) that strongly suggests the writer heard it and heard it more than once.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote toolis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:23
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i don't see how he's arrogant. He simply fails to say anything of use and his grammar's pretty band (has he heard of conjunctions?). I don't expect a track by track review from everyone (God that would be awful), but he basicaly just said wait till you hear this. Why bother?

 

I meant that this reviewer is a serial offender....

 

Even if you hate track-by-track reviews (then you'd dislike mineBig%20smile), when we're talking about not-yet-released album, we should at least see something in the text that refers to specific parts in the album so that we can guess (only GUESS) that the reviewer has actually HEARD the album... I could write that same review and I haven't heard the album! (nor do i plan to do it until june 5)... Lighthouse is a good forum member but this review should be under observation, as the other ones, even though they're 5-star ones....


maybe ratings and submitting reviews could be blocked until the official release date...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1800iareyay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:24
Tony, I see what you mean, I read his other reviews. His Neal Morse review is hilarious. "The songs are excellent." No s**t, you gave it five stars, I should hope you liked it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1800iareyay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:26
Originally posted by toolis toolis wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i don't see how he's arrogant. He simply fails to say anything of use and his grammar's pretty band (has he heard of conjunctions?). I don't expect a track by track review from everyone (God that would be awful), but he basicaly just said wait till you hear this. Why bother?

 

I meant that this reviewer is a serial offender....

 

Even if you hate track-by-track reviews (then you'd dislike mineBig%20smile), when we're talking about not-yet-released album, we should at least see something in the text that refers to specific parts in the album so that we can guess (only GUESS) that the reviewer has actually HEARD the album... I could write that same review and I haven't heard the album! (nor do i plan to do it until june 5)... Lighthouse is a good forum member but this review should be under observation, as the other ones, even though they're 5-star ones....


maybe ratings and submitting reviews could be blocked until the official release date...
I actually wrote about this on a topic someone started just for SC. Many albums have different release dates for different countries, which creates a problem for blocking. I propose that reviews are forbidden until the earliest official release date for an album
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:39
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

Originally posted by toolis toolis wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i don't see how he's arrogant. He simply fails to say anything of use and his grammar's pretty band (has he heard of conjunctions?). I don't expect a track by track review from everyone (God that would be awful), but he basicaly just said wait till you hear this. Why bother?

 

I meant that this reviewer is a serial offender....

 

Even if you hate track-by-track reviews (then you'd dislike mineBig%20smile), when we're talking about not-yet-released album, we should at least see something in the text that refers to specific parts in the album so that we can guess (only GUESS) that the reviewer has actually HEARD the album... I could write that same review and I haven't heard the album! (nor do i plan to do it until june 5)... Lighthouse is a good forum member but this review should be under observation, as the other ones, even though they're 5-star ones....


maybe ratings and submitting reviews could be blocked until the official release date...
I actually wrote about this on a topic someone started just for SC. Many albums have different release dates for different countries, which creates a problem for blocking. I propose that reviews are forbidden until the earliest official release date for an album
 
Couldn't agree more... But that's a Lost Cause...even more so than The Lost Chord...LOL...No, really, I think the owners of the site want it that way, and if they do, we'll have to deal with it, let our livers take the pain, and eventually, suing them when our stress has forced us into the hospital...Big%20smile.... No, I've said it like 10000 times, but I understand why it can't be done, even though it would help a lot.... Just like that Synphony X review... where the hell did that come from? The album is more than a MONTH away! Promo copy? How can be sure if the review is so full of...nothing? CryAngryOuchConfused
 
 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

SYMPHONY X — Paradise Lost

Review by robbob (robert sargent)

2%20stars They have passed five years sincethe last studio album o SX.

I had the privilege to own one of the promotional copies¿Do I?

That`s what I realize at first,but when I listen to it....mmm..

There are songs in the great quality of the short songs of the last best SX albums.

¿But what did happen with those epic long symph power prog metal songs of before?

¿Did Russel Allen had surgery in his throat? His voice sounds devastated .

It seems that in their lasts concerts they like too much the applauses,cries and screams of the audience when they sang the most power metal songs and they said " ...ah thats the way".....

This album is too comercial and it seems that SX nowadays is looking foward popularity in the great metal masses.

2*

 
 
Is this album out yet? Are there leaks? What's this????ConfusedConfusedConfused
 
And about the DT reviews, it was obvious that this was going to happen. We shouldn't allow reviews so early before a release date... (and I'm saying that even though both reviews are 5-star).... It damages the credibility of all the reviews in general to have reviews based on "leaks", even if the reviewers don't acknowledge it. CryCry
 
 
IMHO this should be deleted - one gets a promo copy because
a) you're a DJ
b) you are a reviewer
 
this guy is obviously neither.
 
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Is that the standard we want for first review?
 
I think not.
I could have written a better review of the album than that and I havent listened to any Symphony X in the last 12 months!
 
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This one is a real dandy...

 
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Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

On the front page there are three reviews of Rush albums which are almost identical. Only one option I think...........................


Rush n00b indeed...Wink everything made by Rush is 5 stars to him.
Surprisingly, he reviewed three more albums and knew, upon then, how to...say something...different. Confused


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Re : the four reviews submitted by Snakeplisken on May 12/2007 for Rush - Counterpoints, Hold Your Fire, Power Windows, & Test For Echo.
I have no problem with the star rating of the gist of the reviews. Except for one thing - Each review is composed of the same words, with the ONLY difference being a change in the album(s) named. See below :
"Superb songwriting throughout make XXXX one of Rush's best records. Standout tracks include every tune of the record. This is not an album; however, for Rush/prog purists. Prog masterpieces are nowhere to found on this recording. Tight little hard rock/prog twist songs make up the matter of this album and it is only with repeated listening that the true brilliance of what they are going is finally achieved in the intricacies of the intenste musicianship and sound that goes into making this one of the most underrated recordings in the Rush pantheon.
XXXX is an excellent album release by a band that continues to shatter general expectations from a bunch of "fans" who want them to record XXXX and XXXX over and over until they croak."

I won't comment on the apparent lack of originality displayed by the reviewer (that seems self-evident), but I find it makes a mockery of the effort most people put into a review. I don't need a track by track breakdown, but for god's sake, this is simply not acceptable. It smacks of Ratings pumping of the worst sort.
I would request that all four be deleted & the writer advised to pay attention to what he writes.
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5%20stars RUSH - Hemispheres
5%20stars RUSH - Moving Pictures
5%20stars RUSH - Power Windows
5%20stars RUSH - Hold Your Fire
5%20stars RUSH - Counterparts
5%20stars RUSH - Test for Echo
5%20stars RUSH - Snakes & Arrows
 
I think the 3 idebntical one's should be deleted, what say you fellow admins?
In fact none are up to standard really..apart from maybe the Test For Echo one?


Edited by Tony R - May 12 2007 at 13:59
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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

5%20stars RUSH - Hemispheres
5%20stars RUSH - Moving Pictures
5%20stars RUSH - Power Windows
5%20stars RUSH - Hold Your Fire
5%20stars RUSH - Counterparts
5%20stars RUSH - Test for Echo
5%20stars RUSH - Snakes & Arrows
 
I think the 3 idebntical one's should be deleted, what say you fellow admins?
In fact none are up to standard really..apart from maybe the Test For Echo one?
 
As a rule, reviews are assessed in isolation, the acid test being do they stand up on their own as a review of the chosen album. While I acknowledge the lazy style of the reviewing they are OK on that basis. They are not the best reviews on the site, but there a lot worse too. I'll contact the reviewer requesting that they review each album individually, but I don't see any grounds for deletion as they stand.
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But 3 are IDENTICAL apart from substituting the album name...so the later two should go....
 
and the Hemispheres review, is that acceptable? Is this the standard we want to accept?
 
 
 Neil Peart is a much, much better writer. The truth is Hemispheres is a musically outstanding and extremely ambitious endeavor that was created entirely on purpose. Geddy's bass lines are exquisite, Alex' guitar is never matched again on any Rush album, and Neil's drumming, well, it's Neil's drumming. Enough said. Anybody can see this is at least a four star release. I happen to think it's a five.
 
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What do others think here?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stonebeard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2007 at 14:18
Come on, Bob. We can't just have the same reviews repeated for 3+ albums, even if the reviews aren't necessarily worthy of being deleted in their own right. One would be OK, but as it is, it's disrespectful to the integrity of the site, I think.
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