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Posted: May 24 2007 at 05:10

^ information is missing on vinyls too.

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Posted: May 24 2007 at 03:29

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I haven't had the chance to listen to many LP's, but i was stunned how good the sound quality was when i lsitened to Dark Side and Hotel California on vinyl. The sound quality was just as good as CDs, yet it also seemed to have a warm/rich quality to it as well that's a little hard to describe

This "warm" quality might be described as a low pass filter effect (CDs usually contain frequencies beyond 18khz while vinyls don't).

But it's very interesting that you cannot get a CD to sound like vinyl, no matter how you EQ it...

Numeric sounds thin and harsh cause informations are missing.

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Posted: May 22 2007 at 13:27

^ maybe they'll someday invent a filter which creates this effect ... if it exists. Of course it may also be caused by the emotions most of us associate with vinyls ... I wonder how double blind tests would turn out.

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Posted: May 22 2007 at 13:20

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

This "warm" quality might be described as a low pass filter effect (CDs usually contain frequencies beyond 18khz while vinyls don't).

But it's very interesting that you cannot get a CD to sound like vinyl, no matter how you EQ it...

The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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Posted: May 22 2007 at 07:52

This "warm" quality might be described as a low pass filter effect (CDs usually contain frequencies beyond 18khz while vinyls don't).

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Posted: May 22 2007 at 07:00

...you noticed!

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Posted: May 20 2007 at 15:46

I haven't had the chance to listen to many LP's, but i was stunned how good the sound quality was when i lsitened to Dark Side and Hotel California on vinyl. The sound quality was just as good as CDs, yet it also seemed to have a warm/rich quality to it as well that's a little hard to describe

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Posted: May 16 2007 at 12:06

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Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet.

the new PT one's pretty good though!

Agreed ... Steven Wilson is a sound quality perfectionist. I'll definitely buy the vinyl edition too if I get the chance ... I also have the DVD-Audio version. Embarrassed

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Posted: May 13 2007 at 18:02

CD, better packaging (see Sigur Ros and Tool) beteer sound quality

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Posted: May 13 2007 at 18:00

oliverstoned wrote:

Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet.

the new PT one's pretty good though!

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 10:56

Vinyl makes good frisbees. Clown

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 08:55

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Indeed - science can prove that the bumblebee cannot, in fact fly.

The bumblebee does not know this...

A couple of years ago it was proven that bumblebees actually can fly. That's probably the reason why they do.

Science can prove anything it likes

However, the "proof" of the urban myth about the bee came about after comparing bumblebee wings to 747 wings - which is a bit like comparing an oil-based vinyl compound with an aluminium-based material, given that bumblebee wings are not rigid like a 747's wings

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 06:16

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Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet.

Which ones have you heard?

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:42

I do prefer ELP's Brain Salad Surgery, Genesis Nursery Cryme, and Pink Floyd's Meddle on vinyl its just a real shame that vinyl is fading away.

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:40

Exactly! I've never heard a good one yet.

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:27

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well well - one of the first posts i made almost the day i joined PA - it certainly put the cat among the pigeons!

I'm still very much into my vinyl these days, the fascination hasn't abated especially since upgrading my system, and digging through my old records is great fun, so it's lucky i never got rid of them!

Still play cd's, though wish some new releases came in LP form, such as the new PT album.

Has the new PT already been released as LP? I bought the limited edition (DVD-Audio) instead ... I think that 5.1 DVD-Audio is currently the best possible format, but whether it works or not of course depends on the mix.

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 04:51

I buy CDs but the one thing I really regret is selling my vinyl Zep boots.. some came with beautiful gatefold covers and great photos.

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Posted: May 04 2007 at 04:46

well well - one of the first posts i made almost the day i joined PA - it certainly put the cat among the pigeons!

Still play cd's, though wish some new releases came in LP form, such as the new PT album.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 10:59

Certif1ed wrote:

Indeed - science can prove that the bumblebee cannot, in fact fly.

The bumblebee does not know this...

A couple of years ago it was proven that bumblebees actually can fly. That's probably the reason why they do.

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Posted: May 03 2007 at 03:04

^ interesting analogy. But while I believe in bumblebees I still don't think that humans can hear beyond 20khz (make that 18khz for almost any adult person) ... which is why I don't think that Olivier's usual "numeric is bad" argument is valid.

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