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I've been listening to more Jazz than Prog. latley. Miles and Eric Dolphy have been invading my ears nonstop for a few weeks now.
 
This guy is probably my favorite in the fusion genre along with Mahavishnu. Miles on the Corner is awesome with McLaughlin on it.

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Davis attended a reception in honor of Ray Charles at Ronald Reagan' s White House in 1987. This was his reply to a Washington society lady seated next to him who had asked him what he had done to be invited.

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'Like' is too mild a word.
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Originally posted by almc2242 almc2242 wrote:

Some people say that Fusion was developed thanks to Miles Davis. Disapprove


I thought we had stopped regurgitating such poorly researched statements. I'll take "made it mainstream"; read Stuart Nicholson's Jazz Rock: A History for a considered viewpoint.
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yes i like the 69-75 stuff Thumbs%20Up And kind of blue is pretty good 2 i gues Wink
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Yes. Yes i do. Yes i do like Miles Davis. Indeed. Uh-huh. Correct.
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I love his music, so I voted yes!!!

Bitches Brew is indeed widely regarded as the first fusion/jazzrock album, although Hot Rats (Zappa), sounds very much like jazzrock, having been recorded during the very same week on the other (west)coast.
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Miles was a brilliant man and Kind of Blue (and Giant Steps) is what got me into Jazz.  Kind of Blue is a fantastic album for many reasons. 

What else makes Miles great?  He worked with: Coltrane, Zawinul, Hancock, Evans, McLaughlin, and among the many other greats I suppose I'll list Chick although I'm not too fond of his work.  Well I like it, but sometimes he gets old.

Anyways,  Miles had awesome groups to work with and knew what he wanted to do.  I really enjoy his late 60s/70s albums simply for the odd textures that he creates.  In A Silent Way, Files de Kilamanjaro (especially), Bitches Brew, Agharta (can never spell it properly), both the live at the filmoore albums are excellent.  And On the Corner is supreme! Super funky-fusion.  Its great and often over looked.
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Miles Davis is awesome.  His sextet and quintet were amazing, ranks up with John Coltrane's group.
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Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

I had the occasion to listen to two of his (probable not very important) albums, they were Tutu and Kind of Blue if I'm not wrong. I didn't like it at all and the trumpet's specific sound annoyed me to tears. Torture for me, so my vote goes for "no, or not yet" - that's because I intend to give him some more tries. It wouldn't be the first time that I may get into something I initially hated, and I think that the fact that in between I discovered jazzrock is an advantage.
 
Curiously enough, The Miles had spawned hundreds of imitators ever since with his trademark vibrato-less note playing -mainly due to being originally raised in a more classical enviroment-, although he was not considered a virtuoso, his influence is noted in the creation and development of cool jazz (even when some claimed Miles to be a cheap imitator of Chet Baker, which apparently was the other way around) as well as modal and jazz fusion (development if not creation per se); thus he is aknowledge more for influence and musicality than musicianship; love Kind Of Blue and his cool jass records and recently discovered Bitches Brew (which was missing from my father's archives, strangely enough), also strange I listened to most fusion before I found Miles' "electric" albums


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While I liked Miles 50's Quintet with Coltrane (in which KOB), I must say I am not a fan of his 60's Quintet (ESP, Killimandjaro etc...) because there is something really cold and mechanic to that groups.
 
However from In A Slilent Way (68) until the Agartha album (77), his discography is near flawless. I must say that Miles got lost a bit in the 80's, though.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
However from In A Silent Way (68) until the Agartha album (77), his discography is near flawless. I must say that Miles got lost a bit in the 80's, though.
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Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
However from In A Silent Way (68) until the Agartha album (77), his discography is near flawless. I must say that Miles got lost a bit in the 80's, though.





 
That was his drug habit - musically he remained cutting edge/experimental and pissing off the jazz main stream whilst  he set the scene for nu.fusion, jazz rap etc. - going where many of his 70's disciplines dare not venture instead back pedalling into mainstream non-electric jazz..
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
However from In A Silent Way (68) until the Agartha album (77), his discography is near flawless. I must say that Miles got lost a bit in the 80's, though.





 
That was his drug habit - musically he remained cutting edge/experimental and pissing off the jazz main stream whilst  he set the scene for nu.fusion, jazz rap etc. - going where many of his 70's disciples (!?!?) dare not venture instead back pedalling into mainstream non-electric jazz..
 
Having read a small biography I read a few years ago, Davis' drugs habits had already started in the 60's.
 
I agree that he was often on the cutting edge in the 80's , but he was more often on the wrong edge than not.Wink Hancock also did this for a while in the early 80's.
 
But one day, I will buy Ian Carr's book about Miles.Thumbs%20Up
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Originally posted by LarryCanary LarryCanary wrote:

Sketches of Spain is very good stuff
 
Indeed, that is more often than not the Miles record I go for. The very subtle but piercing jazz quality infused in the work, without relying on cliches such as straightforward syncopation to pull it off, is actually a great way of bringing the core spirit of jazz into relief. Besides, his solos are so emotionally intense.
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Do you like Miles Davis?
 
When he was young during the "fabulous" 40-50-60, yes.
 
During his late yrs, not that much....Ermm
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

I had the occasion to listen to two of his (probable not very important) albums, they were Tutu and Kind of Blue if I'm not wrong. I didn't like it at all and the trumpet's specific sound annoyed me to tears. Torture for me, so my vote goes for "no, or not yet" - that's because I intend to give him some more tries. It wouldn't be the first time that I may get into something I initially hated, and I think that the fact that in between I discovered jazzrock is an advantage.
 
Curiously enough, The Miles had spawned hundreds of imitators ever since with his trademark vibrato-less note playing -mainly due to being originally raised in a more classical enviroment-, although he was not considered a virtuoso, his influence is noted in the creation and development of cool jazz (even when some claimed Miles to be a cheap imitator of Chet Baker, which apparently was the other way around) as well as modal and jazz fusion (development if not creation per se); thus he is aknowledge more for influence and musicality than musicianship; love Kind Of Blue and his cool jass records and recently discovered Bitches Brew (which was missing from my father's archives, strangely enough), also strange I listened to most fusion before I found Miles' "electric" albums


Reading my original post, I find I was right - I recently gave Miles another chance (with "The Complete Bitches Brew Sessions" - btw is this album listed? - and "In a Silent Way"), and I was blew away. Fabulous! Oh, and I also found out that the "not that important" album I mentioned, "Kind of Blue", was one of the most influential jazz albums ever. OuchLOL
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I am very fond of Davis, however, I find much of his improv to be lacking in some undefinable way
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Miles Davis was a true genius, his Man with the Horn, Jack Johnson and Bitches Brew albums are brilliant and he should be included in Jazz-fusion, but do i like him?  from what i have heard i wouldn't have liked to have met him, and he sure wouldn't have liked to have met me.Ermm
 
 
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