The Intelligent People's Thread

moreitsythanyou wrote: I got a 95 on my calc test. Can I join?

You must list your 5 best characteristics and then be admitted by a member

Personally I find myself to be an intelligent person. The vast expanses of my brain are full of the wealth of knowledge and there's stil room for more. In my spare time I take the company of my comrades, listen to experimental rock music, indulge in literary pleasures, write prose and poetry, as well as play music with my band. To me imagination and creativity is more important than knowledge, but knowledge is still a very important thing because it is the enemy of ignorance, the ultimate plague upon society. Imagination and creativity on the other hand are enemies of the plague that is conformity and those dedicated to producing it. The tool used to battle conformity and ignorance is the ultimate from of human expression - language. Language is the most effective method of changing minds and swaying the ways of the public. The goal of a democratic society should be to ensure that all it's members learn to use this tool and use it as the tool of unlimited free expression it is.

The Wizard wrote: Personally I find myself to be an intelligent person. The vast expanses of my brain are full of the wealth of knowledge and there's stil room for more. In my spare time I take the company of my comrades, listen to experimental rock music, indulge in literary pleasures, write prose and poetry, as well as play music with my band. To me imagination and creativity is more important than knowledge, but knowledge is still a very important thing because it is the enemy of ignorance, the ultimate plague upon society. Imagination and creativity on the other hand are enemies of the plague that is conformity and those dedicated to producing it. The tool used to battle conformity and ignorance is the ultimate from of human expression - language. Language is the most effective method of changing minds and swaying the ways of the public. The goal of a democratic society should be to ensure that all it's members learn to use this tool and use it as the tool of unlimited free expression it is.

If you can express that as a 5-point bulleted list, your in.

JJLehto wrote: Reminds me of John Bell's Inequality Theory, one of my personal favorite theories of Quantam Mechanics.

Bell's inequality has one fatal flaw: if entangled particles do in fact transmit data faster than the speed of light, then hidden variables continue to be a viable quantum theory.  Since no experimental data has shown that entanglement reacts at less than or equal to the speed of light, I continue to believe that hidden variables are possible and quite elegant.  Besides, Bell was working in support of the Copenhagen view, the single most uninspired, boring, unelegant idea the physics world has ever concieved. 

JJLehto wrote: moreitsythanyou wrote: Atomic_Rooster wrote: moreitsythanyou wrote: I got a 95 on my calc test. Can I join? You must list your 5 best characteristics and then be admitted by a member Oh ok then 1. My mind has led me to this thread 2. I actually get some of the jokes here 3. Number three doesn't exist, but I can change that 4. I can post emoticons(see ) 5. I'm actually all like smart and stuff   Maybe the creator should decide....but that seems perfect for entrance to me.

I second that

I do say, this man is challenging everything you have done Atomic Rooster!

rileydog22 wrote: Atomic_Rooster wrote: Ahh yes... I believe I included that in my final analysis of string theory last night when I was sitting on the toilet for a few hours... uggggghhhh.... string theory.  Why the hell is string theory so popular?  No one has a single reason why string theory should be any righter than any other model.  The Classical model and String model produce EXACTLY the same results for all experiments currently within the ability of the technologies avaliable today.  String theory gets all the attention, but there's absolutely nothing currently SUPPORTING IT!

NAMLOOK, PETE — Shades Of Orion 2 (with Tetsu Inoue)
Review by Ricochet (Victor "Philip" Parau)
Special Collaborator Electronic Prog & Art Rock Specialist

— First review of this album —

Fast continuations, within Pete Namlook projects that shine or simply nerve the music, are of a tone that’s diverse and ample as possible. The many efforts stand for a thing’s quantitative euphoria; also many or the expressions of a success or of an excess, in music, style, musicianship special fluidity or a motive’s special character, if prolonged intensely. Now some projects have their guest in recent relented albums, for which the debut or the beginnings have savor, but also sepsis. Others however evolve their perfection in the midst of the first personal (and even avant-gardish) moments, for the continuations to evolve craft and variations – being that rarely a project is of the same taste, it doesn’t get either to being a complex switch. From artifice to pure imagination, the immensely concentrated material has the only fault of thickening the creative line.

The second common asset from the gamma which, in total, extends to three present albums, Shades Of Orion (the third album is more modern, and, paradox, more rare) have the features less deep, more weakly expected. The couple, possibly genial, of Namlook and Inoue work on a project of full epic part sided music (meaning music of a long time, apparently fragmented into more clear parts, which contain from soft melody changes to themes thorough levels), so that Shades Of Orion 2, with a piece in 14 un-delimited parts named Orion Transfer, is a “transfer” of text and context, of memorized stamen or percolated improvisation, of sound and effect, of rudimentary yet obscure vision. Impressive is the structure’s composure, while stranger it is the intelligence of a true charisma or base slides’ act. The entire pâté of deep (eclectic, most likely) sounds reminds me of Dark Side Of The Moog 2, realized with Klaus Schulze (though that one, outside a middle that breaks into trance, is silent serenity) or 2350 Broadway’s second CD (though that one stands organic); and the style, out of all the references, is of an usual and methodic value, as like a “vintage” and “plainage” quality.

Shades Of Orion is an exhilarant accent on chill empty, virulent meditation, harmonic composition, astral spirit on dead pulses, as if the 70 minutes exceeded great fun wouldn’t be enough, making a descriptive and cerebral luscious organ of contemplative, contemplated also, music. The style is cold, called chill or ambient plethora, because in its essence the practice darkness is long enhanced in opposition to a peaceful background or an inventive ritual, the silence-soundflush combo being elevated to a active-passive state; the artists, working in a filigreed manner of smallest elements exposure, control and exclude the static of a passion in wires and in shadows. The cool chalked experiment’s limits do exist, yet that means, at least, that the drowning shade nuance came to a grand proportion. The possible divide in 14 tenacious illusive fragments isn’t necessarily understandable, since the dark album is, in its strongest value, whole and un-dispersed; plus the fluid infinite manner catches the life of noise oscillation only once, towards the 50-60 minutes. A large dilemma can’t be anything else than how technical is a deep ridden material, and how involuntarily complex, satisfying the most restless tastes. The answer being inconclusive. Shades Of Orion 2 fascinates the immensity of a so-said scission void, secondarily being the disruptive emotion of a tight trance, with the occasional syrup; and thirdly standing the magic of a totem modularly construction, or of that fluid rustle electronic music can really perfect.

Between a trance perspective faint and a future thrilling ambiance, I believe in the supposition that Shades Of Orion is, one at hand, the most consistent possible shine of electronic affliction (basic terms, nothing above or under), two at hang, the coldest modesty of effects and aspires, and three at hand, the hardest to swallow long pleura pill. This is something for fans, but for the Namlook(-Inoue) big conscience too. Fully northing.

Posted Tuesday, May 01, 2007, 12:1

Atomic_Rooster wrote: The Wizard wrote: Atomic_Rooster wrote: The Wizard wrote: Personally I find myself to be an intelligent person. The vast expanses of my brain are full of the wealth of knowledge and there's stil room for more. In my spare time I take the company of my comrades, listen to experimental rock music, indulge in literary pleasures, write prose and poetry, as well as play music with my band. To me imagination and creativity is more important than knowledge, but knowledge is still a very important thing because it is the enemy of ignorance, the ultimate plague upon society. Imagination and creativity on the other hand are enemies of the plague that is conformity and those dedicated to producing it. The tool used to battle conformity and ignorance is the ultimate from of human expression - language. Language is the most effective method of changing minds and swaying the ways of the public. The goal of a democratic society should be to ensure that all it's members learn to use this tool and use it as the tool of unlimited free expression it is.     If you can express that as a 5-point bulleted list, your in. 1. Imagination and Knowledge are good 2. Conformity and Ignorance are bad 3. Language is powerful 4. It is the ultimate form of expression 5. Democracy should teach those under it to take advantage of this good enough for me; have some bull testicles!

A poll to the quantum scientists out there: What's your take on the wave-particle duality?  Copenhagen, hidden variables, multiverse, sum-over-histories, or what?

I'm a DeBroglie guy myself, I think his hidden variables theories make a lot of sense.  Sum-over-histories is also an interesting theory, and I think it's actually sort of similar to the DeBroglie model, or perhaps could be the mechanism behind the "hidden variables." Hmmmm.....that's an interesting idea.  I'm gonna mull that over a bit. 


Edited by rileydog22 - May 02 2007 at 22:17