21st Century Schizoid Band. Hear me out.

Why were they rejected?  We've got original lineup members, some of which wrote the bulk of early KC, especially In The Court.  We've got covers of old songs, as well as new material by said songwriters.  Sounds an awful lot like Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe to me, but they're present on the archives.

Can we get -past- this hypocritical policy of not adding bands that happen to do covers?  Phish do more covers than originals, and they're here.  ABWH's concert disc is primarily Yes covers with a few originals thrown in, just like 21CSB's Live In Japan release.  It's not like they're The Musical Box (who are rather good), with no real ties...  this is -the- band that King Crimson almost became when Fripp offered to leave the band so it could continue.

Why the exclusionism?  21CSB is an important part of the prog scene, and by not including them, we are doing a disservice to our readers by not giving them any information or a forum for reviewing.  Oh, and their original material kicks ass and is -quite- prog.


Edited by Man Overboard - April 08 2007 at 03:39

At this point, I think the matter should be taken up by the Admin team. I'll post something later in the Admin Zone to see if the others agree to their addition, and where they should be put - the Crimson Jazz Trio are in Prog-Related, but off the top of my head I wouldn't be able to say where the Schizoid band belong (PR? Art Rock? Symphonic? Various Artists?)

Who said they were rejected?

Man Overboard wrote: I don't see how they can be mentioned in the same breath as "tribute bands"; they are the majority of the original lineup, performing old material as well as new original material.

The question is, have they recorded any original material?

bhikkhu wrote: Man Overboard wrote: I don't see how they can be mentioned in the same breath as "tribute bands"; they are the majority of the original lineup, performing old material as well as new original material. The question is, have they recorded any original material?

The original material appears on the live releases, it was not omitted, so yes, it was recorded.  Or are you saying it has to be studio for it to count?

bhikkhu wrote: Man Overboard wrote: bhikkhu wrote: Man Overboard wrote: I don't see how they can be mentioned in the same breath as "tribute bands"; they are the majority of the original lineup, performing old material as well as new original material. The question is, have they recorded any original material? The original material appears on the live releases, it was not omitted, so yes, it was recorded.  Or are you saying it has to be studio for it to count? This is such an odd case. It's like an almost band. It really mystifies me that in all this time they haven't done an original studio album. The truth is I don't know what to think about these guys . For now I would say to put them with the rest of the tributes. Once they have released a proper album of original music, then we can put them in a regular genre. So far all I see is a few singles.

There's an extreme parallel with ABWH.  ABWH is 4 ex-Yes members with a new musician, Schizoid Band is 4 ex-Crims with a new musician.  ABWH's live shows were predominantly Yes tracks with a few originals, Schizoid Band's live shows are predominantly KC tracks with a few originals.

Once again, why are they not here yet?    Do it in the memory of Ian Wallace...

So a studio release is necessary to be added to the archives, even if all the other criteria is spot-on?