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    Posted: March 05 2004 at 12:28

A television reviewer I'd heard an interview with has a term,"Jumping the Shark" which refers to the point where creativity wanes and the artist attempts something to try to gather attention. On the TV show Happy Days, the audience was losing interest so the producers sent the actors to Hawaii. Fonzi, in shorts and a leather jacket, Jumps a shark while waterskiing. That signaled the end of the show, grasping at straws, the writers ran out of ideas. This happens in music,too.

Anyway, which bands released an album that "Jumped the Shark?"

ELP - Love Beach  (I liked some of it)

Genesis - Abacab  (What happened?)

Yes - Big Generator  (Shoot High, Aim Low is the only reason I still own it)

 

(No offense to member Shark intended)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2004 at 15:10
I can't think of anything off-hand except for when Spinal Tap is reduced to playing gigs on air force bases and playing second fiddle to puppet shows! One of the funniest movies ever made next to The Holy Grail. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2004 at 19:30
No offence taken danbo! Add Tull's Under Wraps to your list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2004 at 02:34
 Big time, Sharkie! The worst Tull disc I've ever heard -- even worse than "Kissing Willie" on the undistinguished ROCK ISLAND!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2004 at 03:12
Gentle Giant -CIVILIAN.  Eek.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2004 at 03:18

Hmm...

If you consider Soft Machine's Land of Cockayne a "Jump the Shark" analogy, then sure, but I did enjoy some tracks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2004 at 13:32

PFM - After the brilliant "Jet Lag", they just slid into pop mediocrity

Return to Forever - Referring to the "Gayle Moran" edition ("Music Magic", "RTF-Live") with the horns and all, cheesy as a Broadway show, EEEEEEEEK!

Mahavishnu Orchestra - MK I & II were brilliant (Gayle Moran notwithstanding), but "Inner Worlds" and the 80's Mahavishnu stuff TOTALLY BLEW!!

Zappa - After Zoot Allures, it was straight downhill!, a lot of stupid jokes as opposed to actual humor he once excelled in (although a lot of the purely instrumental stuff was still good).

 

 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2004 at 11:31
I don't agree with you about Zappa. The albums after Zoot Allures are different. I can see why you don't like the humour, but I think that albums like Sheik Yerbouti are cool, in their own right. And there's still a lot of comments on society on Joe's Garage and You Are What You Is, so Frank remained sharp!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2004 at 19:33
SHEIK YERBOUTI!!!...Maybe you should stay with your mamma(mamma!) she could do your laundry and cook for you!!,....maybe you should stay with your mamma(mamma!) your really kind of stupid and ugly too!!...and what about "Dancing Fool"(looking for Mr Goodbar!!?....well HERE HE IS!!!).......GREAT ALBUM
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2004 at 01:39

i agree with the love beach album, and:

yes: talk

kansas: power

queensryche: Q2K

and i disagree with the zappa thing... why the agression, he is like David Bowie the father of everything different!!! of course we doubt, he was 10 years ahead of us

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2004 at 12:47

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

I don't agree with you about Zappa. The albums after Zoot Allures are different. I can see why you don't like the humour, but I think that albums like Sheik Yerbouti are cool, in their own right. And there's still a lot of comments on society on Joe's Garage and You Are What You Is, so Frank remained sharp!

I agree!!! Anyone listened to The Yellow Shark from 1993? It's extremely complex and serious. Another example of his genius and ambitions (maybe too high ambitions? The musicians have their difficulties!!). Sheik Yerbouti and Joe's Garage are fun, and Jazz from Hell is great! I don't have more of his later albums..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2004 at 12:52

All camel after moonmadness??


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2004 at 13:00
I agree, it's the last interesting album, but I haven't heard anything from the 90s or later. I guess not everyone will agree on this....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2004 at 13:08
Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

ELP - Love Beach  (I liked some of it)

I have problems with Works as well.. Here, it's obvious what kind of intensions Greg Lake had...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2004 at 02:58
What about a shark jumping duet? Hackett & Howe......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2004 at 03:08
Originally posted by Radioactive Toy Radioactive Toy wrote:

All camel after moonmadness??

NOOOOOO!!! What about songs like Echoes, Ice, Hymn to her, Stationary Traveller, Drafted, Long Goodbyes... and the WHOLE Dust  and Dreams, Harbour of Tears and Rajaz albums! Pure beauty!!!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2004 at 12:25
Get 'em Paco.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2004 at 12:57

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Get 'em Paco.........

I'm sorry.. didn't mentioned to be like that way.. I've bought nude.. and that Irish air (fortuned to trade it at the store) and both albums just gave me such an awful feeling.. Its just not like the early camel!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2004 at 13:26

It was a joke, RT. I loved Dust and Dreams, but it's a different animal than Snow Goose. Sometimes we buy stuff with preconcieved notions of what it WILL sound like, and ???????????? it's not what we expected and, even though it may be really good, it gets shelved because it didn't meet our expectations.

I remember being a total Queen nut years ago. Night at the Opera, Day at the Races and News of the World came out, saw the shows.......... The Game comes out and they're doing Elvis and disco and playing synths (remember the little "no synths" disclaimer on each album jacket?) Oh GOD!!!! Shelved.

(Was the Game Queen's shark jump album?) 

Anyway, no harm meant.   



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2004 at 17:55

I totaly lost interest in Queen after Night at the Opera so anything released after that I would refer to as serial shark jumping... Confused

I mean we will rock you? oy vey.......

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