Where are all the Post-Rock bands

Yea! if only they were not so F****** secretive, i understand that the problem is getting a biography written.

My list of post rock bands could go on and on. Although according to some people my list has bands that are not post rock. Let me make a new list that should be more agreeable.

Re the proposal to remove "Experimental".

Sean Trane wrote: Bryan wrote: Sunn 0))) have nothing to do with post-rock... nor do Jesu really for that matter.   exactly.   And we should be careful not to systematically include all post rock bands, but only the ones that are progressive....

Easier said than done. How exactly does one define which post-rock bands are "progressive" and which are not?

Of course, there are some bands that are widely categorized as post-rock, and yet have a very pop oriented and straightforward approach. I agree that these bands should not be added, but how about all the GY!BE, EitS, Tortoise etc. influenced bands that are out there? Should we automatically discard them just because GY!BE did it first? Using this criterium, the archives would be a whole lot emptier (not talking about post-rock solely).

On a sidenote, I agree that Sunn 0))), Jesu etc. are not Post-rock in the least.

Jimbo wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Bryan wrote: Sunn 0))) have nothing to do with post-rock... nor do Jesu really for that matter.   exactly.   And we should be careful not to systematically include all post rock bands, but only the ones that are progressive.... Easier said than done. How exactly does one define which post-rock bands are "progressive" and which are not? Of course, there are some bands that are widely categorized as post-rock, and yet have a very pop oriented and straightforward approach. I agree that these bands should not be added, but how about all the GY!BE, EitS, Tortoise etc. influenced bands that are out there? Should we automatically discard them just because GY!BE did it first? Using this criterium, the archives would be a whole lot emptier (not talking about post-rock solely). On a sidenote, I agree that Sunn 0))), Jesu etc. are not Post-rock in the least.

Easy Livin wrote: Re the proposal to remove "Experimental".   Are there any other views on this? Is it superflouous, or are some of the bands in this sub-genre best described as that? Does Avant Gard already cover experimental?

I think the experimental tag should remain, as not all bands under that banner are expressly post-rock, namely Don Caballero, who really don't belong anywhere else.  Also, as is being discussed here, there are many post-rock bands, but not all of them progressive... the team is trying to add mostly the experimental end of the post-rock spectrum.

why didn't my quote work right?

I think that the post rock/experimental tag is a good one as it covers all the experimental rock and stuff like that would really be considered RIO/Avant

Proletariat wrote: Yea! if only they were not so F****** secretive, i understand that the problem is getting a biography written.

chamberry wrote: If you would like to see more bands from the genre added here in PA then feel free to write a bio for any of these bands cleared for addition on the list: http://www.progtology.com/home/progarchives/postrockchart.xhtml

I personally believe that the experimental tag should go for the same reasons some posted it should be here. In my opinion Don Cab shouldn't be in the post-rock genre. Its very misleading. I know that the band and genre has some links with post-rock, but I would prefer seeing them in another genre or maybe even a more organized math rock genre instead of adding them in totally different genres (there are math rock bands in Art Rock, RIO/Avant and Post-rock genres), but thats for another time...

I also don't agree with FruMp's post. If theres a band that could be considered avant-garde then the band will most likely be added in the RIO/Avant genre.

Up to know there aren't really any experimental artists in the genre (maybe Set Fire to Flames,Cul De Sac or the already cleared Shalabi Effect if you want to call them experimental), so why keep the name?

chamberry wrote: I'm going to be very honest here. I don't see myself as a post-rock specialist nor do I know all that is to know about it or even 70% of the bands being tagged as post-rock, but I'm a devoted fan of it and I try my best to promote and add bands here in the archives, but it isn't easy and I already mentioned the main problems: lack of information and the real world. If anyone really wants to see the bands being added here then why not try and help us add them by writing bios or just giving us some useful links about them? I think it would be better that way. It will definitely ease the heavy weight in our backs.

FruMp wrote: Proletariat wrote: I have been "into" post rock way before i got into prog. I wanted to write post-rock reviews but the bands arent here. Here are a few suggestions (just the bare minimum): the Autumn project, Sunn 0))), (yes they are considered post rock in most non-prog post rock circles), This Will Destroy You, Jesu. There are tons more but these are essential. Err my band mates are stoners and listen to boris, sunn and similar bands dude they aren't post rock they're stoner/doom metal - pretty big difference.