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FruMp 
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Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 322 |
 Posted: March 29 2007 at 05:07 |
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I think the prog algorthim is a damn good one, I'm sure anyone who has been into prog for a decent amount of time can look at the top 10 and be happy that it's accurate (even though it's subjective).
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Angelo
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 07:35 |
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I rarely visit progtology.com, and of course I understood that the word 'metal' was a mistake. I think the algorithm is just fine, and I don't look at the top 100 that often either. I used when I joined PA less than a year ago, but at some point you find other (more taste specific) ways to find new items to collect. |
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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Pnoom!
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 08:39 |
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What else could a CAN fan say?
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akin
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 06 2004 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 976 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 08:47 |
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Well, for those who doesn't bother about the TOP 100 (like me for example), there is no problem.
The way the ranking is made was shown to those who really bother about the TOP 100. Those who say the formula is accurate are talking nonsense unless they say it is accurate to represent something, and it is stated that the formula is accurate to show these albums mentioned in the first post in the 1st places, not accurate to describe the general preferences about prog. I think this post is useful enough to show people who check the TOP 100 what represents the TOP 100, so if they are expecting something different now they are not mistaken and they don't need to waste their times complaining of the band positions in the TOP 100. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21133 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 09:06 |
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"accurate to describe the
general preferences about prog": Isn't this a contradiction in terms? "General preferences" can only mean a compromise between the personal preferences of all the users, which is inherently in-accurate.
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akin
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Joined: February 06 2004 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 976 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 09:10 |
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It is not, an election is to decide the general preferences about the candidates of the people of a country and the system is recognized as the fairest ever made. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21133 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 09:24 |
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^ so are you suggesting that we conduct a poll about the constants of the algorithm?
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 14:58 |
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My algorithm will work better:
rate*numberofreviews*numberoftimesLaBriesingsonalbum - numberoftimesKayoDotappearsonalbum/ overall rating.
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Firepuck
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 28 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 657 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 15:28 |
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"I want to publicly thank those involved" - ME TOO!!!
 "the average rating gradually drops and its position stays about the same" - I have noticed this phenomenon also.
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Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks."
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Firepuck
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Joined: February 28 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 657 |
Posted: March 29 2007 at 15:37 |
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"Part of the usefulness of this site is to find NEW music" - Absolutely, without this site (as I have mentioned before) I would never have gotten back into prog. To me prog stopped somewhere around 1980 when I stopped buying albums (at about the 1500 count - I figured I had enough of the music I love to last the rest of my life). Since finding this site a couple of years ago I have discovered new newer bands (i.e. Porcupine Tree), new older bands (i.e. Focus), new genres (i.e. post rock - GYBE) and most importantly - a new love for progressive music.
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Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks."
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martinn
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 09 2006 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 360 |
Posted: March 31 2007 at 22:33 |
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I really wasn't interested in hearing Kayo Dot although it has been named Progarchives Album of the Year, but your obsession with it is making me curious. I may check it out now.  |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: March 31 2007 at 23:20 |
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I'm not really obsessed...i found the album atrocious but many people like it a lot and I just keep coming after it as a kind of very mature and grown-up vendetta for all the cheap shots agains The Dream...  Edited by The T - March 31 2007 at 23:21 |
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Chris H
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191 |
Posted: March 31 2007 at 23:23 |
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T, I can't wait for the day when Toby Driver registers on the forums and starts reading this stuff, then comes and kicks yer arse
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Beauty will save the world.
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: March 31 2007 at 23:24 |
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i don't know who he is... The singer? Well, the way he wails and screams and yells in the album, he shouldn't be a problem to deal with... I mean, the guy's clearly depressed and insane, what challenege would that be???
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Guests
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 13:50 |
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AM I to understand that some have hit it on the dot that some are KO'd from an overexposure or feel overrun by reviews of a certain recent release ?
 And one extra point here, doesn't Donald Trump own the trademark to the "Truth" ?  P.S. Is this starting to sound like a soap opera where the plot seems to progress very slowly ? Already April, & we've yet to get over the last year's "polled" pantheon of prog perfection. Could we start a thread arguing that the choices that were voted top ten in 2005 are not deserving of that accolade ? Should we re-visit the top 100 ranking & dissect it to ensure no one has been "goosing" up their fave artist to make sure they out rank other groups who they dislike ? Heck , I gave VDGG albums 3 stars just to be nice, & now I think myself dishonest, because I simply could not find more than one song on 7 of their so-called top rated albums that I actually liked. So I thought I'd at least recognise that they have a sizeable following. And that was mainly because it sounds like another favourite of mine - A Whiter Shade Of Pale ! SO if possible, I'd like to request that my all my VDGG be deleted, so I can restate them to better reflect my actual opinion of them. I mean, I wouldn't want to skew the results of this ranking. That & having gone over the list, I notice that Albums I actually love are behind these VDGG releases, & I wonder if my over-rating just to be nice makes the difference in who comes in at # 83 instead of # 92. Not that I'm accusing anyone else of purposely rating an album highly to boost their idol, or dismissing another group's album with a low (say one star) rating so as to bring down a band they abhor. Actually, that may be more honest than trying to be objective. I mean, in the sense of having listened to an album & disliked it, make sure you sign in & rate it to reflect its' one star value in your eyes. Just might be that too many of us just go in for our faves. Edited by pantacruelgruel - April 05 2007 at 13:54 |
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micky
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 06:33 |
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beats Dream Theater polls anyday |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 22:00 |
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That & the constant polls re : Phil Collins |
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MikeEnRegalia wrote:
