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I have to say, posting here I feel like I could say so much, but my emphasis has been on the "pure" Symphonic Prog, not the Italian subgenre. For all I know, though, "Per Un Amico", "Collage", and "Felona e Sorona" are beautiful albums. Italy has quite a bit of spunk to it, as I can hear perfectly from this emotional and very visual music. I have heard other clips from Le Orme, PFM, and Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso.... it is all so imaginative and at times fairy-tale in proportions.
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Originally posted by D.U. D.U. wrote:

I have to say, posting here I feel like I could say so much, but my emphasis has been on the "pure" Symphonic Prog, not the Italian subgenre. For all I know, though, "Per Un Amico", "Collage", and "Felona e Sorona" are beautiful albums. Italy has quite a bit of spunk to it, as I can hear perfectly from this emotional and very visual music. I have heard other clips from Le Orme, PFM, and Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso.... it is all so imaginative and at times fairy-tale in proportions.


here's a couple of clappies...Clap  I found a PFM sample here about some time ago before I even joined the forum, back when you could download them Thumbs%20UpLOL, actually well before I joined the site.  A couple of years later, music-wise, I eat drink and breath the stuff. There is SO much variety within the Italian prog, it simply has never gotten stale.  Exploring the avant works of Franco Battiato right now. Picked up a couple more last night as a matter of fact. Fascinating artist.

there are lots of great suggestions in here if you go back through the pages here.  Welcome aboard.
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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

thanks for the Battiato reviews Mandy...  have really gotten into him. Looking  to scarf up more of his stuff while here. By the way...  do you want to see Le Orme with us on the 29th, contact Andrea C. He's getting the tickets..

by the way Happy Birthday to Niccolò - Niki ( IO ). In case you drop in today.
 
I've got tickets with me, finally...Wink
 
Happy birthday, NIKIClap


awesome...  and we made train and hotel reservations yesterday.  Thanks Andrea!

picked up two more Battiato albums last night.

Melle le 'gladiator' and L'era del cinghiale bianco

only need a couple more to complete his 70's albums.   quite a prolific artist.  Even his later pop-prog stuff sounds interesting, though I think I'll stop for now with the avant 70's stuff. There are other albums to get you know LOL
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Points: 4411 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2007 at 07:16
hhmmm, Battiato. Mandy has recently bought his last album Il Vuoto (2007). I thought it would have been a return to his archaic electronic/prog vein but Mandy said me it continues the formula of the recent releases.
 
BTW, tomorrow is coming very soon.Wink
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A new album for  the italian neo-prog band The Watch and it's titled Primitive.
 
 
After having listened to the wonderful Vacuum I am curious to this one!
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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

A new album for  the italian neo-prog band The Watch and it's titled Primitive.
 
 
After having listened to the wonderful Vacuum I am curious to this one!
 
So am i Big%20smile
 
Vacuum is an excellent album...this might be as good as it.

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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2007 at 13:20
Glass House write:
"By the way Mandy, have you heard of a group called Brainbox? Not prog but certainly interesting with songs like Dark Rose and Summertime. Jan Akkerman played in the band."

I answer:
"Uhm... I not know Brainbox"
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Apologies if it has already been mentioned in here before. I bought this a couple of months ago and would welcome your opinions on it.
 
The packaging is nice but a bit flimsy and the cd selection wanders too much towards blues rock for my liking but the book is terrific. Thanks for the great thread guys! Costing me a fortune!
 
 
 
 
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Wow, congratulations Yukorin! Clap
 
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1
Per%20un%20Amico

PFM (Premiata Forneria Marconi)

Per un Amico (1972)
 
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Lisola%20di%20Niente

PFM (Premiata Forneria Marconi)

L'isola di Niente (1974)
 
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Darwin!

Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso

Darwin! (1972)
 
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Io%20sono%20nato%20libero

Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso

Io sono nato libero (1973)
 
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Uomo%20di%20Pezza

Le Orme

Uomo di Pezza (1972)
 
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Le Orme

Felona e Sorona (1973)
 
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Forse%20le%20Lucciole%20Non%20Si%20Amano%20Più

Locanda Delle Fate

Forse le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più (1977)
 
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Picchio%20dal%20Pozzo

Picchio Dal Pozzo

Picchio dal Pozzo (1976)
 
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Ys

Il Balletto Di Bronzo

Ys (1972)
 
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Semiramis

Dedicato a Frazz (1973)
 
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Il Volo

Essere o Non Essere? (1975)
 
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Celeste

Celeste (aka Principe di un giorno) (1976)
 
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Zarathustra

Museo Rosenbach

Zarathustra (1990)
 
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UT

New Trolls

UT (1972)
 
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Portable%20Madness

Sensations' Fix

Portable Madness (1974)
 
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Palepoli

Osanna

Palepoli (1973)
 
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Maxophone

Maxophone

Maxophone (1975)
 
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Corte Dei Miracoli

Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)
 
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Quella Vecchia Locanda

Il Tempo Della Gioia (1974)
 
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Biglietto Per L'inferno

Biglietto per l'inferno (1974)
 
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Contaminazione

RDM (Rovescio Della Medaglia)

Contaminazione (1973)
 
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Aquile%20e%20scoiattoli

Latte e Miele

Aquile e scoiattoli (1976)
 
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Alphataurus

Alphataurus

Alphataurus (1973)
 
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Io%20Non%20So%20Da%20Dove%20Vengo%20E%20Non%20So%20Dove%20Mai%20Andrò.%20Uomo%20E%20Il%20Nome%20Che%20Mi%20Han%20Dato.

De De Lind

Io Non So Da Dove Vengo E Non So Dove Mai Andrò. Uomo E' Il Nome Che Mi Han Dato. (1973
 
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Voci

Luciano Basso

Voci (1976)
 
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Celestion

Riccardo Zappa

Celestion (1977)
 
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Take%20Off

Antonio Sangiuliano

Take Off (1978)
 
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DNA

Jumbo

DNA (1972)
 
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Inferno

Metamorfosi

Inferno (1973)
 
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Murple

Io Sono Murple (1973)
 
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Area

Maledetti (Maudits) (1976)
 
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Franco Battiato

Sulle Corde Di Aries (1973)
 
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Aria Alan Sorrenti
 
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I%20NOMADI%20INTERPRETANO%20GUCCINI Nomadi
 
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Etna

Etna

Etna (1975)
 
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Il Paese Dei Balocchi

Il Paese Dei Balocchi (1972)
 
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Per...%20un%20mondo%20di%20cristallo

Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno

Per... un mondo di cristallo (1972)
 
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Delirium [ITA]

III - Viaggio negli Arcipelaghi del Tempo (1974)
 
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Juri Camisasca

La finestra dentro (1974)
 
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Introspezione

Opus Avantra

Introspezione (1974)
 
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Tilt

Arti & Mestieri

Tilt (1974)
 
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Melos Cervello
 
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Samadhi Samadhi
 
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Campo%20Di%20Marte

Campo Di Marte

Campo Di Marte (1973)
 
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Dedalus

Dedalus

Dedalus (1973)
 
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Suspiria

Goblin

Suspiria (1977)
 
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Intorno%20Alla%20Mia%20Cattiva%20Educazione Alusa Fallax
 
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Apoteosi

Apoteosi

Apoteosi (1975)
 
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J.e.t.

Fede, Speranza, Carità (1972)
 
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I Giganti

Terra in bocca (Poesia di un delitto) (1971)
 
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Uno

Panna Fredda

Uno (1971)
 
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I Teoremi

I Teoremi (1972)
 
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Sun%20Supreme Ibis
 
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Sconcerto

Il Baricentro

Sconcerto (1976)
 
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Aktuala

Aktuala

Aktuala (1973)
 
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Jacula

Tardo Pede in Magiam Versus (1972)
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TODAY IS THE DAY... Finally I succeed to see Le Orme!!!

After 17 years balancing the accounts with my brother!!!

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DALLASBRYAN, I don't possess all this album. But this list is indeed optimal.
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Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

 
Apologies if it has already been mentioned in here before. I bought this a couple of months ago and would welcome your opinions on it.
 
The packaging is nice but a bit flimsy and the cd selection wanders too much towards blues rock for my liking but the book is terrific. Thanks for the great thread guys! Costing me a fortune!
 
 
 
 


I had my hands on that but found a better one, for me at least, called 'The Return of Italian Pop' with tons of obscure stuff, interviews (9) with assorted groups, and lots of background information. Nice to find another independent source that confirms what we are doing here.  Think there are some groups in it we don't have here yet... but haven't crossreferenced the book vs. our site yet.
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Le Orme concert in Padova (Padua) March, 29th 2007. This is my impressions:

" Giuseppe "Michi" Dei Rossi it doesn't seem has 60 years old because it steps on like one of 20 years old!!! And Michele Bon in "Blue Rondò A La Turk" (single of first formation but published in 1973) surclassed Keith Emerson that he recorded this song with The Nice.
For me they have gone beyond what I expected (also for Andrea Cortese).

And you are played all of my preferred songs...: "Felona E Sorona" (summary), "Figure Di Cartone", "Gioco Di Bimba", "Cemento Armato", "Sguardo Verso Il Cielo", "Blue Rondò A La Turk", "Contrappunti", "Amico Di Ieri", one summary of "L'Infinito" and one summary of the beautiful "Il Fiume". In general they played like they had 20 years oldand not 60 years old!!! (Specially "Michi" Dei Rossi that he is a very animal but capable of to treat its car from war with the velves gloves!!! And Michi's solo is the best drum solo that I've listen in my life!!!). And Aldo Tagliapietra it is still in a position to using the voice like in the 70's."
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2007 at 18:21
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

 
Apologies if it has already been mentioned in here before. I bought this a couple of months ago and would welcome your opinions on it.
 
The packaging is nice but a bit flimsy and the cd selection wanders too much towards blues rock for my liking but the book is terrific. Thanks for the great thread guys! Costing me a fortune!
 
 
 
 


I had my hands on that but found a better one, for me at least, called 'The Return of Italian Pop' with tons of obscure stuff, interviews (9) with assorted groups, and lots of background information. Nice to find another independent source that confirms what we are doing here.  Think there are some groups in it we don't have here yet... but haven't crossreferenced the book vs. our site yet.


The book is little good for an Introduction on RPI. But I prefer:

VARIOUS ARTISTS (CONCEPT ALBUMS & THEMED COMPILATIONS)

I Grandi Successi Del Rock Progressivo Italiano

(Boxset/Compilation, 2005)

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Track Listings

1. Osanna: Introduzione (3:27)
2. Delirium: Dolce Acqua (Speranza) (5:47)
3. New Trolls: 1° Tempo: Allegro (2:15)
4. I Garybaldi: Marta Helmut (4:06)
5. Il Paese Dei Balocchi: Il Trionfo Dell'egoismo, Della Violenza, Della Presunzione E Dell'indifferenza (2:34)
6. Gli Alluminogeni: Scolopendra (3:44)
7. Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno: L'ombra (3:37)
8. I Califfi: Campane (5:08)
9. Triade: Caro Fratello (5:01)
10. Ricordi D'infanzia: L'Eden (2:54)
11. Tito Schipa Jr.: Venditore Di Felicità (canta Renato Zero) (4:15)
12. Uno: I Cani E La Volpe (4:02)
13. Samandhi: L'angelo (3:11)
14. Procession: Uomini Di Vento (3:51)
15. Città Frontale: Alba Di Una Città (3:04)
16. Bambibanda E Melodie: Canto Del Sole (2:07)

Total Time: 59:03

Line-up/Musicians

... see Track List ...

Releases information

CD Warner Music Italy 5051011-1356-2-0 (2005)
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I've recommended the rediscover of this Italian gem:

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IL MUCCHIO

Il Mucchio

(Studio Album, 1970)
 Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador)
COLLABORATOR Italian Prog Specialist

4%20stars My review is produced using this release: Mellow Records MMP 166

My Rating: 8/10 PA Rating: 4/5

This is the sole album by Il Mucchio, 5 piece band from Venice. The songs are written by Pino Donaggio, in those years famous Italian Song songwriter and today proprietor of a musical publisher label. The style is a simple Proto Prog/ Psychedelic Rock with Symphonic arrengements (very heavy but also very light) and this "Il Mucchio" is one of first examples of Italian Prog. This is a concept on the psyche of the man of 2000 but today it plays very twisted (in the exposition of the ideas) because this concept was composed in a different period like ideology (post '68). In every case the music is very good. The music, in fact, is very dramatic, Psychedelic and powerfull. In this sense the ogan is used for to increase the components that they form the concept creating a really enormous thickness. In this sense if the organ was substitute from the guitar I have idea that the music has been a lot near the style of the song songwriter. The musical preparation of the musicians and the superior writing (and the not banal and suggestive lyrics) they do the remainder. I do not believe that to cite a song with respect to another one have sense because are all on the same plan. Rather how much I have written it is more than just for to understand this forgotten jewelry.

This is one of the more forgotten albums of the RPI. And for me it isn't a good thing. Since the quality is extreme high, "Il Mucchio" has to be in every serious and complete discography.

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