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Points: 730 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2007 at 21:52
Originally posted by mithrandir mithrandir wrote:

I told you'd get some good help on this board, Wink
 
you were right my friend, you were right.

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may i also suggest these works:

Mandarin Movie - s/t (brutal jazznoisemetal-tronix here!!!)

Shining - In The Kingdom of Kitsch You Will Be A Monster (RIO-ed avant-progout)

Supersilent - 1-3, 4 and 7  (the ultimate avant-improv-electro-jazz powerhouses)

Phantom City - Shiva Recoil (heavy duty live improv fusion-tronics!!!)

The Nels Cline Singers - The Giant Cline (lovely postrockjazzprov)
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http://www.amazon.com/Control-Resistance-Rich-Woodsons-Ellipsis/dp/B00004SWHX/ref=sr_1_2/104-3454778-9091901?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1172984249&sr=8-2

Rich Woodson's Ellipsis:  Control and Resistance    (yes, a reference to the great tech prog thrash band, Watchtower).....check out the samples!

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Rope- heresy and then nothing but tears

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Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

I am looking for dissonant, weird/experimental jazz (fusion?) that utilizes guitars.....


Now we're talking! This is the stuff that has kept me going, imho the modern avant-jazz scene is infinitely more interesting than the modern prog scene. Here's some of my favorite stuff involving electric guitar, in no particular order except that I think Tim Berne absolutely rules:

Tim Berne - The Sublime And., Livein Cognito, Science Friction (guitarist on these albums is Marc Ducret who is a MONSTER, especially on Sublime, which is easily my favorite of the above)

Electric Masada - At the Mountains of Madness and 50th Birthday Celebration Volume 4 (Zorn's great electric project, rippin' guitar from Marc Ribot, very electric Miles like)

Bar Kokhba Sextet - 50th Birthday Celebration Volume 11 (maybe my favorite Zorn/Masada project ever, gorgeous stuff! Ribot again on guitar)

Damsel - Distressed (featuring Nels Cline along with Zach Hill from Hella)

Cline/Parkins/Rainey - Ash and Tabula

Aka Moon - Elohim (really great and accessible Belgian electric jazz group, this album includes Marc Ducret)

Crimetime Orchestra - Life is a Beautiful Monster (10-piece big band electric fusion blowout, seriously intense stuff)

Rova::Orkestrova - Electric Ascension (an even more intense big-band electric blowout, this time a modern interpretation of Coltrane's famous album. features Nels Cline on guitar)

Pat Metheny & Ornette Coleman - Song X (a classic! Metheny fans flipped their sh*t when they heard this one, some of this stuff is very noisy and intense; I love it)

xmarsx - xmarsx (very tuneful, accessible modern avant-fusion)
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2007 at 03:53
Best thread ever...

Guitars? Elliott Sharp, David Torn, Marc Ducret with Tim Berne (already mentioned) and solo (not mentioned yet, I think), Last Exit (Sharrock, Brotzmann, Laswell, Jackson), Derek Bailey's cooperation with Brotzmann et al. on "Nipples"... there's also a guy called Bern Nix who played guitar for Ornette Coleman, I haven't heard his music, but it might be worth checking out... James "Blood" Ulmer deserves a mention here...

Also, while not really 'aggressive', highly recommended for its creativity - Joe Morris, "Age of Everything" :

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=13125


No guitars in these, but still:

Huseyin Ertunc Trio:

http://www.fusetronsound.com/index.php?whomlab=BarnRe-leasing

Max Roach & Anthony Braxton

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=15106

(though you're probably well familiar with Braxton...)

Progreviews wrote: imho the modern avant-jazz scene is infinitely more interesting than the modern prog scene.

It's infinitely more interesting than prog in general imnsho...

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Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

The Nels Cline Singers - The Giant Cline (lovely postrockjazzprov)
 
I think that's The Giant Pin....although your title for it may be better!  It is an excellent record, although personally I marginally prefer their other album, Instrumentals.


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Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Control-Resistance-Rich-Woodsons-Ellipsis/dp/B00004SWHX/ref=sr_1_2/104-3454778-9091901?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1172984249&sr=8-2

Rich Woodson's Ellipsis:  Control and Resistance    (yes, a reference to the great tech prog thrash band, Watchtower).....check out the samples!
 
It's very good stuff.  Anybody who fancies buying the album might want to go to Wayside Music, where it's on clearance for $4.


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Although I'm hardly an expert in the field of Avant-Jazz, I agree with progreviews that you should check out Aka Moon. If you want guitars, you could start with their album Guitars. My favourites are their self-titled debut album, In Real Time and the aforementioned Guitars.
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Points: 2703 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2007 at 09:10
I would recommend Taylor's Free Universe. Some of their works are too avant and too free form for me to enjoy to the full, but I am slowly getting into it. It's demanding but very rewarding listening. I am no expert in free form music, but judging by experts opinions TFU is one of the best modern free-jazz around. Give it a try.
  
 
 


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Great recommendations. I am on the hunt for some of the bands/albums mentioned and already ordered some.
Keep'em coming....
 
 
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Well, if you're looking for a Frith recommendation,

Fred Frith - Accidental

is a very good and very dissonant album. I wouldn't call it avant jazz though. I haven't really heard anything that frith that I would directly call avant jazz.
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Electric Masada - At the Mountains of Madness and 50th Birthday Celebration Volume 4 (Zorn's great electric project, rippin' guitar from Marc Ribot, very electric Miles like)

 
This is a must.
 
Also Don Cherry
Iva Bittova ( I discovered her a few months ago and she is mind blowing)
 


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Try Flat Earth Society, particularly the album "Isms". Thumbs%20Up
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Where is the best place to find and buy the Aka Moon discs here in the US?

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Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

Where is the best place to find and buy the Aka Moon discs here in the US?
 
Here:
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

The Nels Cline Singers - The Giant Cline (lovely postrockjazzprov)
 
I think that's The Giant Pin....although your title for it may be better!  It is an excellent record, although personally I marginally prefer their other album, Instrumentals.


I ordered a couple of Nels Cline Singers albums, including The Giant Pin from their label Cryptogramophone at Venice Beach LA, about a year ago. This was after a Nels Cline interview on BBC Radio 3 and a sample aired from Instrumentals. A good price and delivery is the fastest ever I've had from the USA. And Cryptogramophone, threw in a sampler CD for nothing. The sampler is a gold mine for other avant jazz musicians.
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

The Nels Cline Singers - The Giant Cline (lovely postrockjazzprov)
 
I think that's The Giant Pin....although your title for it may be better!  It is an excellent record, although personally I marginally prefer their other album, Instrumentals.


I ordered a couple of Nels Cline Singers albums, including The Giant Pin from their label Cryptogramophone at Venice Beach LA, about a year ago. This was after a Nels Cline interview on BBC Radio 3 and a sample aired from Instrumentals. A good price and delivery is the fastest ever I've had from the USA. And Cryptogramophone, threw in a sampler CD for nothing. The sampler is a gold mine for other avant jazz musicians.
 
I've now got several copies of that sampler, as they seem to chuck one in with any chunky order...must get round to listening to it Embarrassed
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Points: 2888 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2007 at 16:58
Here is something I have been listening to a lot since it was posted on mutant-sounds blog. Not guitar orientated, I usually prefer jazz this way; most likely because I used to play trumpet.

Not too much information about the album.

Reform Art Unit-Impressions ,LP,1978 , Austria(NWW List!)

Improvisation/free jazz band from Austria.

members:
Anthony Braxton
Fritz Novotny
Muhammad Malli
Paul Fickl
Walter Schiefer
Clifford Thornton
Heinz Jδger
1978 – September 30

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/search?q=reform+art+unit+-+impressions+three+motions+1978

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Points: 1230 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2007 at 17:42
Elton Dean - Just Us
AMM - AMMusic
Anthony Braxton - 3 Compositions of New Jazz
Peter Brotzmann - Machine Gun
Spontaneous Music Ensemble - Koryobin

If madness is your bag.. definitely check out Machine Gun

oops... missed the guitar part there.Confused altho the SME features avant guitar legend Derek Bailey.. i still highly suggest you get those albums

also recommend Marc Ribot - Scelsi Morning


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