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Poll Question: Which is the most pretentious of these albums?
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5 [6.94%]
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    Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:22

These are some of the most pretentiious albums i have heard, this is not to say they are bad, in fact i love most of them. Which do you think really tops the bill when it comes to pretention?
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I don't really find them pretentious.
 
OK maybe Tales.
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In my opinion, Journey to the centre of the Earth is the most pretentious here. In some parts, I think it's ridiculous.

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as far as i'm concerned, a clear draw between TALES and PICTURES.
SIX WIVES' pretentiousness is kind ouf counterbalanced by wakey's
sense of humour which prevails throughout most of his recordings.
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if someone don't like ''pretentious'', they should not be on this site. If YES, WAKEMAN,
or ELP are considered ''pretentious''  , what to say about Beethoven, Moussorgski or Wagner or Mahler?
''pretentious'' is a word used by PROG haters.
There is nothing ''pretentious'' about the aforementionned albums; they are maybe challenging , adventurous, not easy listening, but it's what prog is all about.
We should create a rule here: banning the word ''pretentious'' on this site or you are exiled to SteHelena with a ZZTOP album or better Enrique Iglesias collection. At least
they are not ''pretentious''
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Points: 4088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:38
I voted Tales, have yet to hear JTTCOTE, but I might just pass, survived long enough without hearing it...
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Points: 11746 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:44
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

if someone don't like ''pretentious'', they should not be on this site. If YES, WAKEMAN,
or ELP are considered ''pretentious''  , what to say about Beethoven, Moussorgski or Wagner or Mahler?
''pretentious'' is a word used by PROG haters.
There is nothing ''pretentious'' about the aforementionned albums; they are maybe challenging , adventurous, not easy listening, but it's what prog is all about.
We should create a rule here: banning the word ''pretentious'' on this site or you are exiled to SteHelena with a ZZTOP album or better Enrique Iglesias collection. At least
they are not ''pretentious''


I personally never take pretentious as an insult. In fact, I really like ELP and they are really pretentious to me. I prefer to see the word "pretentious" as a way to not take ourselves too seriously.

I like a lot of the albums above but damn they are pretentious. LOL

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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:46
Pretentious is an overused word and almost always gets confused with adventerous and ambitious tendancies from a band. Its especially overused on this site.
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Scarsick, obviously. LOL

The word overused is overused, Andy. Wink
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I don't think the GY!BE album fits in this list...
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:55
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Scarsick, obviously. LOL

The word overused is overused, Andy. Wink

I might actually agree with you on Scarsick (shock, horror)LOL.

The problem is when anyone tries to do something really ambitious (PoS's Be springs to mind), half the people that listen to it automatically label it pretentious, though there is a fine line between the two.

And overated is the overused word James, not overused.Wink
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:58
I think Lift Your Fatty Toes Like A Satellite Dish to Hell, fits perfectly in this list actually, au contraire!

It's a very silly and overrated album.

And yes, Andy, I did mean Overrated, but overused is also overused.
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Rick Wakeman's "Journey..." IS pretentious and IS actually ridiculous at times, but anyway I love it.
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for me, thick as a brick of Jethro tull

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Points: 1751 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 16:22
In my opinion, pretentious means  someone trying to create something that is beyond their limits as a creator, eg a garage band trying to write a classical score. Most prog musicians are not pretentious they are fully qualified to create these epics, many have been classically trained, or else jazz musicians, pretentiousness is just another misconception of prog.l



  
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I agree with the majority of posts, most of these albums aren't really THAT pretentious. Pictures At An Exhibition at the expense of Works Volume 1?? I adore Pictures, but couldn't say the same about Works myself. Emerson's 'Piano Concerto' especially...

But, I do find A Passion Play unbearably pretentious, sorry to say. I adore Thick As A Brick but all APP is to me was a misguided attempt to 'better' TAAB and fails on every level- no memorable hooks, overtly long noodling and that embarassing 'Hare Who Lost Its Spectacles' schtick. IMHO, of course.
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Points: 5111 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 16:34
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I agree with the majority of posts, most of these albums aren't really THAT pretentious. Pictures At An Exhibition at the expense of Works Volume 1?? I adore Pictures, but couldn't say the same about Works myself. Emerson's 'Piano Concerto' especially...

Absolutely, Works Volume 1 was the peak of ELP's pretension.  I wonder how many copies of that record have ever had Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto No. 1 played more than a couple of times? 
 
There are three and a half minutes of good music on that double album, but they were written by Prokofiev, not Keith...
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Points: 28427 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 16:53
Tales is the most pretentious of these, but also the best(well actually second best after LYSF...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 17:22
Days of Future Passed was a "pretentious" idea at the time, but the times were different back then. I love Tales, but it really was the group's taking their evolution past its' logical conclusion (i.e. how long can a song go on for ....)
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anybody who chooses tales here has their heads up their own asses, and just don't "Get it" because they're too caught up in their own ego and mass of bullsh*t. I'm ashamed to be apart of this community when I see poll results like this.
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