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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 05:29

One final thought before I shuttup, what prog tune would you like another band to cover and why?

 

Niacin doing Collegium Musicum's You Are Impossible Prt 1. Yes I know the band and tune are obscure (but rewarding to hear - so go find), but CM were an organ lead trio, similarities to Nice and clearly conservatoise-trained musicians. The tune has a fantastic bass solo (amazingly advanced considered it was recorded early 1973) and thus provides an opportunity for Billy Sheehan to open up. BTW Niacin's John Novello has heard the piece..............

 

But then I probably have more chance of Gary Lucas recording Hope For Happiness.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 06:31

I'd like to hear Marillion cover a Genesis track, and Fish cover a Gabriel track - doesn't matter which 

What I'd really like is to hear prog bands cover themselves - ie original band members get back together and actually re-record some of the classic albums with modern production techniques and the ideas they've picked up through their many years of experience.

Imagine what "Selling England..." or "Court..." might sound like

However, I reckon Muse would make a fair job of Discipline, and an interesting interpretation of Tarkus, and Radiohead could cover Gone To Earth (BJH). Porcupine Tree could also cover any Barclay James Harvest album...

Last thought; Spock's Beard covering Octopus

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 07:21
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I'd like to hear Marillion cover a Genesis track, and Fish cover a Gabriel track - doesn't matter which 

Didn't Fish guest on a Tony Banks album????? -Probably as close as you are likely to get......

What I'd really like is to hear prog bands cover themselves - ie original band members get back together and actually re-record some of the classic albums with modern production techniques and the ideas they've picked up through their many years of experience.

I'm reminded Yes (around 1971/2) certainly gigged and  played different arrangements (particularly instrument change) of tunes off albums. Really would like to hear something off The Yes Album arranged for two bass guitars as lead, as opposed to guitar and keys. -and presumably bootlegs might exist?????????????

Imagine what "Selling England..." or "Court..." might sound like

I suppose 21st Century Schizoid Band sort of obligued with the latter. Similarily Caravan have re-recorded two albums worth of their earlier tunes in the late 90's, with slightly jazzier arrangements, e.g. on Over You. And check out the French band Polysofts, with Hugh Hopper and Elton Dean guesting, for 21st century takes on earlier Soft Machine tunes.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 08:41

 

"What I'd really like is to hear prog bands cover themselves - ie original band members get back together and actually re-record some of the classic albums with modern production techniques and the ideas they've picked up through their many years of experience."

For example, IQ did that in 'Seven Stories into 98', which is nothing but a 1998 re-recording of their pre-Tales material (pre-1983). Not only did they take advantage of modern technology, but they incorporated some new arrangements at places in order to convey their now mature prog perspective into their old material (writtwn, arranged and performed in a time when they were yet to find their own musical direction).

There's plans of re-recording their debut album 'Tales from the Lush Attic', too.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 09:34
Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

"What I'd really like is to hear prog bands cover themselves - ie original band members get back together and actually re-record some of the classic albums with modern production techniques and the ideas they've picked up through their many years of experience."

I know a lot of ELP fans did not appreciate the re-recording of Pictures that was added as a bonus on the ITHS cd... but actually I really like it.  Greg's voice sounds much better on this, than it does on that re-recording of The Sage that he does on the Manticore box set.

I know that Greg has re-recorded many of his hits using new technology, but for some reason is taking forever to release it... but I think I wouldn't mind hearing an acoustic set from him, sort of like what Jon Anderson did on his recent solo-minitour...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 10:20

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:


Tucked away on one of those Musea Records recordings of the SF Prog Fest, is  Genesis covers band called Giraffe - somebody tells me they in part evolved into Spocks Beard - true or not?

Giraffe was a band featuring Kevin Gilbert who engineered some of Spock's Beards early albums. Nick D'Viglio worked with Kevin on THUD and other projects, as well as performing the SHAMING OF THE TRUE after Kevin's death. My guess is those are the only Spock's Beard connections.

http://www.kevingilbert.com/7a/beveridge.html

 

Another great cover, IMO, is OSI's cover of "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun."

Hey Dick, How were Eartworks versions of Bruford's One of a Kind tracks?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 11:47
Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

[QUOTE=Dick Heath]

Giraffe was a band featuring Kevin Gilbert who engineered some of Spock's Beards early albums. Nick D'Viglio worked with Kevin on THUD and other projects, as well as performing the SHAMING OF THE TRUE after Kevin's death. My guess is those are the only Spock's Beard connections.

http://www.kevingilbert.com/7a/beveridge.html

Cheers for that

Another great cover, IMO, is OSI's cover of "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun."

 

Spend the last three afternoons de-Chinenglishing  a reseach paper, so the brain refuses to decode OSI - help!

Hey Dick, How were Earthworks versions of Bruford's One of a Kind tracks?

 

And Danbo, you ol' bugger you've got me again - missed them. And in that area, (I don't think I read it here),  Bill Bruford is recently on record saying he will be reissuing remastered versions of Bruford albums, probably with bonus tracks. And I'm sure you must know Allan Holdsworth is apparently compiling A Best Of album, which is promised to contain a 'few suprises'.

Proof-reading a Soft Machine biography at the moment for its author - looks authorative!!! Hopefully published in the new year. Holdsworth biography also in preparation by a very earnest Frenchman, who somehow got hold of my tel no. and  bombarded me with questions over 3 long telephone conversations (made long because I don't speak French and he only just speaks English....) - however, his questions are more about the political state of the UK in the late 70's and ealry 80's than any direct Holdsworth connection....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 12:21
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

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Another great cover, IMO, is OSI's cover of "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun."

Spend the last three afternoons de-Chinenglishing  a reseach paper, so the brain refuses to decode OSI - help!

OSI (Office of Strategic Influence) is a group consisting of Kevin Moore (Dream Theater / Chroma Key) /Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater / Tranatlantic & others)  /Jim Matheos (Fates Warning) and Sean Malone (Gordian Knot / Cynic & more). Call it a Supergroup.... Anyway, they put out one album and "Set the Controls...." is a bonus on the Expanded version. I liked Moore's use of effects and Portnoy's drumming is inventive, to say the least.

Hey Dick, How were Earthworks versions of Bruford's One of a Kind tracks?

And Danbo, you ol' bugger you've got me again - missed them. And in that area, (I don't think I read it here),  Bill Bruford is recently on record saying he will be reissuing remastered versions of Bruford albums, probably with bonus tracks. And I'm sure you must know Allan Holdsworth is apparently compiling A Best Of album, which is promised to contain a 'few suprises'.

Yes, yes, yes.... I posted something in the Announcements section regarding both. Neverwasneverwillbe will be released in 2005! The Holdsworth Remasters should be coming out next year as well.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 12:46
Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Yes, yes, yes.... I posted something in the Announcements section regarding both. Neverwasneverwillbe will be released in 2005! The Holdsworth Remasters should be coming out next year as well.

No No No (as they say on the Vicar Of Dibbley)  found I picked this up at Fusenet, with Chris Hoard of Alternity Records doing publicity for the AH remasters

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 12:57
I saw the Mahavishnu Project in NYC. Simply amazing even McLaughlin approves of these guys. Saw Yes last night here in Montreal, I was hoping that they would have Mariah as guest vocalist but it didn`t happen. April Wine does a half decent version of 21st Century Schizoid Man on the album Harder Faster and I`ve also seen them play it live.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 13:01
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Yes, yes, yes.... I posted something in the Announcements section regarding both. Neverwasneverwillbe will be released in 2005! The Holdsworth Remasters should be coming out next year as well.

No No No (as they say on the Vicar Of Dibbley)  found I picked this up at Fusenet, with Chris Hoard of Alternity Records doing publicity for the AH remasters

Chris posted the same thing at Allan's wesite.... I thought I posted something here.... ? Either way, it should be exciting.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 13:12

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I saw the Mahavishnu Project in NYC. Simply amazing even McLaughlin approves of these guys. 

Very envious, but they are in London and Glasgow in November - however,  both bloody difficult places to get to and back in a night from here.

April Wine does a half decent version of 21st Century Schizoid Man on the album Harder Faster and I`ve also seen them play it live.

 

Of course - thanks for reminding me of the only April Wine album I  have and haven't played in almost a decade (being on vinyl doesn't help) - the last album Tommy Vance inspired me to get.......................

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 13:27
Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:


OSI (Office of Strategic Influence) is a group consisting of Kevin Moore (Dream Theater / Chroma Key) /Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater / Tranatlantic & others)  /Jim Matheos (Fates Warning) and Sean Malone (Gordian Knot / Cynic & more). Call it a Supergroup.... Anyway, they put out one album and "Set the Controls...." is a bonus on the Expanded version. I liked Moore's use of effects and Portnoy's drumming is inventive, to say the least.

 

I lost track of those DT spin off bands and also decided I preferred to hear instrumental music from groups who called themselves upfront, jazzrockfusionists. BTW I got myself Conrad Schrenk's Extravaganza Save The Robots during that time and after that record all 90's instrumental albums are inferior. So after some time of not going out of my way tracking down those sort of progressive fusion supergroups (remember the two BLS albums), I got hold of Chris Poland's Ohm  and that was enjoyable. However, I'm a bit of nut for good covers so tempted to seek out OSI.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 13:49
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April Wine does a half decent version of 21st Century Schizoid Man on the album Harder Faster and I`ve also seen them play it live.

Wow! I didn't know April Wine covered that! As I remember they were a pretty decent American Hard rock band (like so many!), although I only heard a coupla tracks by them - Ladies' Man was one, I think.

You've reminded me of another, though - a band called RIOT, who did a blistering cover of "Born To Be Wild" - made Steppenwolf look pedestrian. RIOT were verging on the prog metal - I've only got their Narita album, but they've released a huge stack of albums! Anyone else know anything about RIOT?

Then there was the Raven+Udo Dirkschneider (Accept) cover of BTBW...

To change track completely, I liked Andrew Lloyd Webber's cover of Rachmaninov's cover of Paganini's Caprice in A minor... (I wonder where Paganini covered it from...)

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 05:09
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

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To change track completely, I liked Andrew Lloyd Webber's cover of Rachmaninov's cover of Paganini's Caprice in A minor... (I wonder where Paganini covered it from...)

 

 

Andrew or Julian?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 07:31
Andrew - Julian only played a part of the Variations that Sir Andrew "wrote".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 09:49
I really love the London Philharmonic's version of Pink Floyd's SOYCD.... actually I like that whole cd.. but that songs my favorite off it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 10:46
Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

 

Donna Summer's version of Jon and Vangelis' "State of Independence" was quite good actually, emphasizaing the tropical-exotic ambience in order to make it sound a bit sexier, yet keeping the original song's spiritual enthusiasm. Anyway, Summer is a damn good singer.  

Good call, man. I'd forgotten that one.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 11:05

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Andrew - Julian only played a part of the Variations that Sir Andrew "wrote".

Think I might have lost track here: are we are talking the former theme music to the South Bank Show? If so, remind me wasn't Julian L-W backed by some of Colosseum 2 on the album, plus Jon Hiseman's wife, jazz saxophonist  Barbra Thompson?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 11:36

Yes, we are talking the former theme music to "SBS" but Andrew "wrote" it - although, of course, for and to showcase Julian, which it does well. I think it's an oft overlooked prog classic in every sense of the word prog - there's everything from smooth jazz, through classical (of course!) and pure hard rock with wierd time signatures.

Julian played on some of the variations, but not all. Other musicians include, as you say, Gary Moore, Don Airey and Jon Hiseman (Colosseum II), and Barbra Thompson, but also Herbie Flowers, Rod Argent, John Mole, David Caddick, Bill le Sage, Mary Hopkin (Visconti) and Phil Collins.

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