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dalt99 
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Joined: April 23 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 454 |
 Posted: February 02 2007 at 20:14 |
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Didn't you say at the start that KD was just noise and no melody?
 Yes, and that's what I feel for the most part. I don't like Kayo Dot's new album but I can't dispute that so many people love it. What I am saying is that it may be a great album for the sound it's going for (a sound that I think is awful) but due to the facts that I discussed it's NOT the best prog album of 2006.
It's just like if someone said your favorite album of 2006 was terrible - If that person was the ONLY one out of 1000 who holds that view, then there is a 99.99% chance he is wrong. If EVERYONE else besides you out of 1000 people say your favorite album was terrible than there is a 99.99% chance they are right. Assuming of course that they enjoy to some extent the same music you do. I own 8 post-rock albums and like most of them so it's not like I can't stand the genre. Yes, I own many prog-metal albums too. This KD album is going far away from prog metal.
We may think this Kayo Dot album was terrible and they may think Hybris is terrible but there would be more that agree with us then with them. However, since there are a large amount that do like the KD album, just because WE don't like it doesn't mean it's not an album that people that like that style should listen to.
By the way, PERSONALLY, it's not even in my top 25 for 2006. I've heard and own 28 albums from 2006 including Zaar and Mogwai which were way better than KD imho. Edited by dalt99 - February 02 2007 at 20:17 |
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Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
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avestin
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: February 02 2007 at 20:20 |
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I agree, every subgenre here has their unforunately unknown ones. But for this I am glad we have people like Erik (for Symphonic), Chris (Syzygy), Joren, TP Yuko and Claire(for RIO/Avant), Hugues (Sean) (for everything and Folk and RIO in particular), Andrea Parentin and Andrtea Cortese, Mandy & Raffaella and Micky (for everything Italian and art-rock), Philippe, Olivier & Rico (for everything Kraut and Electronic), Honganji and Adam (Black Velvet (for anything you need you want to know about music - they're like walking encyclopedias), Jody (Progtologist), Bryan and Mike (for Prog Metal), Dick Heath (for jazz and fusion), Eetu (for Psych), Chamberry, Golden Spiral, Jimbo (for post rock), Zac M (for various genres), Atavachron and Sinkadotentree (for various genres) and I could go on and on...
Each one of these do their "work" in their field and try to let others know of the bands in the genres represented here in PA.
I think we do have some bands and topics and genres that get more exposure here and repeated discussions and I usually don't join them. But I don't see a strong inclination to Post Rock and RIO, but I do see more people willing to expose themselves to those genres, which I feel is fine.
If you look at Erik's Symphonic thread, you'll notice it has in a short time passed the RIO Drop In Centre thread, in views and replies. I think the balance is still in favour of that side. But I do see the Prog-Metal side taking over.
What we all can do, is review, discuss in the forums and generally let it be known that all those genres can be great and rewarding. We can inform people and learn ourselves of the not-so-known bands, the albums that should get attention (and here I'll mention Yugen again
 ). I do it in my I recommend thread in particular and in other threads as well (I am not too good in writing reviews, and it takes me a lot of time, which I don't have right now, due to work). What I think is a shame is when someone does not look deeper into prog to look for hidden gems. But generally, the forum members here do look and ask! for info and opinios and recommendations.
I'll mention Erik's thread again as a great source of info for people who want to know of the out-of-mainstream Symphonic Prog.
In my I Recommend thread, I try to go over all genres, cause I love them all. I mean that in every one there are many worth listening to that bring pleasure to the listener.
To sum it all up, Enjoy the music people and explore. You don't like it, move on and look for something else.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21206 |
Posted: February 03 2007 at 05:42 |
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Yes, and that's what I feel for the most part. I don't like Kayo Dot's new album but I can't dispute that so many people love it. What I am saying is that it may be a great album for the sound it's going for (a sound that I think is awful) but due to the facts that I discussed it's NOT the best prog album of 2006.
It's just like if someone said your favorite album of 2006 was terrible - If that person was the ONLY one out of 1000 who holds that view, then there is a 99.99% chance he is wrong. If EVERYONE else besides you out of 1000 people say your favorite album was terrible than there is a 99.99% chance they are right. Assuming of course that they enjoy to some extent the same music you do. I own 8 post-rock albums and like most of them so it's not like I can't stand the genre. Yes, I own many prog-metal albums too. This KD album is going far away from prog metal.
We may think this Kayo Dot album was terrible and they may think Hybris is terrible but there would be more that agree with us then with them. However, since there are a large amount that do like the KD album, just because WE don't like it doesn't mean it's not an album that people that like that style should listen to.
By the way, PERSONALLY, it's not even in my top 25 for 2006. I've heard and own 28 albums from 2006 including Zaar and Mogwai which were way better than KD imho. [/QUOTE]Have a look at yet another top list of 2006 on my website (http://www.progtology.com) ... maybe you'd like to contribute and add your ratings? Your post sounds like you might like my rating system ...  |
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Nash
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Joined: January 30 2007 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 529 |
Posted: February 06 2007 at 10:36 |
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a surprising number 1 also for me!
the one I like the most is wild orchids from steve hackett, a complete masterpice! |
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trauma0
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Joined: December 11 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 137 |
Posted: February 10 2007 at 14:35 |
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PFM IS Nš1 FOR ME!!! |
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The T
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Posted: February 10 2007 at 15:10 |
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how can I get it in the States, how?  (I mean, I could get it in Amazon for like 50$....Is it worthy of 50 DOLLARS????)Edited by The T - February 10 2007 at 15:11 |
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avestin
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: February 10 2007 at 16:29 |
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Laser's Edge has it for 34$ http://www.lasercd.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=8869703152
Syn Phonic (Greg Walker) has it for 32$
http://synphonic.8m.com/country/italy.htm (scroll down)
Doug Larson has it for 32$
Wayside has it for 34$
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: February 10 2007 at 17:20 |
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Thanks!
 but it better be good, otherwise I'll send some "friends" to collect from you and maybe help you sleep with the fishes...  |
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docsolar
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Joined: January 07 2007 Status: Offline Points: 73 |
Posted: February 11 2007 at 12:28 |
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Kayo Dot kicks something serious.
A little dissapointed Mars Volta isn't any higher, but hey. |
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darkmatter
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Joined: November 23 2006 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 2760 |
Posted: February 12 2007 at 12:43 |
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I've been listening to Novembre's Materia and Pure Reason Revolution's The Dark Third recently, and both are quite good, especially PRR's debut.
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Avantgardehead
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Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: February 17 2007 at 00:39 |
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I'm surprised that "Dowsing Anemone with Copper Tongue" got number one. I love that album to death, but it's incredibly hard to get into especially tracks like "___ on Limpid Form" (one of my favorites).
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Forgotten Son
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Joined: March 13 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1356 |
Posted: February 19 2007 at 02:40 |
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I'm surprised that Frost's Milliontown got into the list rather than Mindgames' Actors in a Play. The latter is a much higher quality Neo-Prog release, IMO.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: February 19 2007 at 02:49 |
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^ I guess it's because the album is quite obscure - few people know it, it's not available on Amazon etc..
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21206 |
Posted: February 19 2007 at 02:52 |
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With the words of Eric Cartman: "Someone should kick them in the nuts!". There are much more obscure bands which manage to make their music available at normal prices. |
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eugene
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Joined: May 30 2005 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 2703 |
Posted: February 19 2007 at 17:19 |
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I agree with you here. Mindgames' album is definitely best neo album of the year (from what I've heard), as opposed to Milliontown, which is simply "bad album" in my books.
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Forgotten Son
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Joined: March 13 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1356 |
Posted: February 22 2007 at 01:07 |
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I wouldn't say it was a "bad" album. There are some great moments on it, in fact. Overall, though, it was rather average. |
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Age_Of_Answers
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Joined: February 21 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11 |
Posted: February 22 2007 at 18:44 |
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Hmm, I already had the new Steve Hackett, Tool, and Mars Volta albums in my collection. I'm listening to the new Frost album right now, too; it's pretty good so far.
It's a shame that the new Spock's Beard wasn't listed - it's one of their best, IMO. Certainly better than Octane. Edited by Age_Of_Answers - February 22 2007 at 20:56 |
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sheeves
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Joined: October 30 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 101 |
Posted: February 23 2007 at 11:40 |
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I bought PRR's The Dark Third, and i am very glad that I bought it. Your review was on the money about Pink Floyd's influence. Great Album. Great Review.
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Antennas
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Joined: February 01 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: February 23 2007 at 11:51 |
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GREAT to see PRR's The Dark Third in this list! I bought the album at Blackfield's recent concert in Helmond, NL - and boy, it's WONDERFUL, an absolute masterpiece! This band is going to get real far... |
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Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either |
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flutterby
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Joined: January 21 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 9 |
Posted: February 24 2007 at 20:01 |
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NOT IN ANY SPECIFIC ORDER
Fonderia - Reenter
Harry Miller's Isipingo - Which way now (archival) Hatfield and the North - Hattitude (archival) Zukanican- Horse Republic Lars Danielsson - Melange Bleu No Neck blues band & Embryo - EmbryoNNCK Jakko M. Jakszyk - The bruised romantic glee club Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo tutti i suoi problemi (reissue 2006) Kieran Hebden & Steve Reid - Exchange sessions Vol.2 Phil Miller's In Cahoots - Conspiracy Theories I know I'm always late for such lists but I take a long time to absorbe each album!
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