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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:16 | |||
Aye, but Stonie may like it.
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Walker
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:18 | |||
oops... I get it now
good one!
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Drew
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:19 | |||
all good bro |
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:20 | |||
'Miles Smiles' is my fave. Though he may have sparked the fusion flame, I don't think he ever really did any jazz-rock records in the 60s.
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Walker
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:26 | |||
Not in the 60's, no.
In A Silent Way was recorded in Feb '69, but it is still very Jazz-ish.
Bitches Brew was recorded in Aug '69, but not released until 1970.
Everything else was 1970-1975 for him.
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:44 | |||
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Exactly, and in fact the first jazz rock record in its totality has to be Tony Williams' Emergency in 1969 which predates even Mahavishnu by two years... credit where credit is due. Edited by Atavachron - February 05 2007 at 22:45 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:47 | |||
Nucleus - Elastic Rock was released in 1970, an essential album for all loves of jazz fusion.
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Walker
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 23:01 | |||
I must respectfully disagree!
I think that "In A Silent Way" was the first fusion record, even though it is not as hard core as "Lifetime" or "Bitches Brew". Tony Williams played drums on the album, and it clearly inspired him when he recorded "Lifetime 3 months later.
All of this is academic though. They are both great albums and should be equally respected. This debate could go on as long as the first prog album debate!
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 23:10 | |||
Excellent... without healthy disagreement where would we be
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enteredwinter
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 23:16 | |||
I guess my avatar gives my answer away.
I started a thread in the non-prog section recently titled something like "Miles Davis - Top 5 Albums". A lot of people gave some great advice there about their favorites, I recommend you search for the thread if you're interested in getting into his stuff. EDIT: Here's the link: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33585 Edited by enteredwinter - February 05 2007 at 23:33 |
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Chris H
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 23:17 | |||
Yeah I like him. he be da bomb.
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Beauty will save the world.
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FragileDT
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 23:49 | |||
I would agree with you Walker. Miles' first fusion record was definitely In A Silent Way for me, and it's a masterpiece at that! It's not as well defined as Bitches Brew or Lifetime but it sure is fusion. Maybe, proto-fusion. . With that said I love Miles. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 00:29 | |||
Kind Of Blue took me longer than any prog album to get into. I think you should try revisiting it. It's not my kind of music, but it spoke to me after enough time. |
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 03:31 | |||
Now I know who to blame!
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andu
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 04:35 | |||
I had the occasion to listen to two of his (probable not very important) albums, they were Tutu and Kind of Blue if I'm not wrong. I didn't like it at all and the trumpet's specific sound annoyed me to tears. Torture for me, so my vote goes for "no, or not yet" - that's because I intend to give him some more tries. It wouldn't be the first time that I may get into something I initially hated, and I think that the fact that in between I discovered jazzrock is an advantage.
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 05:24 | |||
Was priviliged to see Miles Davis live in concert not long before he died.I was 4 rows back from the stage.He still had it then.From a fusion point of view people are forgetting the other big one -Live Evil. Very much a partner to Bitches Brew with John Mclaughlin on guitar.
A recent addition to my collection is the DVD "miles electric : a different kind of blue ".An outstanding doco about Miles' famous Isle of Wight festival appearance in 1970. Really shows how fusion fit in to a rock festival.
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"There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about"
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Spacemac
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 07:10 | |||
Yes Yes Yes |
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pero
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:54 | |||
I like his work, but only fusion period.
Tribute to Jack Johnson is my favorite. In a silent way was birth of jazz rock.
Herbie Hancock formed Headhunters
John Mclauglin and Cobham Mahavishnu orchestra
Wayne shorter and Jozef Zawinul Weather report
Chick Corea formed Return to forever
Tonny Williams Tonny Williams lifetime
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Visitor13
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:59 | |||
If by 'developed' the original poster had meant 'started', then some people are wrong. Ask Dick Heath for the details. And yeah, I like MD. Not my favourite jazz guy, but plenty of great music from him for sure. |
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LarryCanary
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 22:51 | |||
Sketches of Spain is very good stuff
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