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    Posted: February 02 2007 at 07:22
The sub-genre must exist, I'm told so today  in one of England's 'newspapers of quality' the London Times. Specifically Steve Jelbert reviewing an album What's The Time Mr Wolf?  (and being awarded 4 stars from 5!)  by the Noisettes, he calls the  band "London's most imaginative prog-punk trio". Having no idea what the band sound like, opinions based on hearing this band would be welcomed. Or is the use of 'prog' as off-centre as when it was used a couple of years ago  in 'prog-trance'?Ermm
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Yeah, it would perfectly pair some other categories like prog-teeth brushing, prog-vacuum cleaning, prog-burping and other related musical activities.
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I think it's just a misnomer, in a same vain as in progressive house.

If there is/was any prog-punk, the whole thing happened in 80s with XTC,  PublicImageLimited and Stranglers.


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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

I think it's just a misnomer, in a same vain as in progressive house.

I there is/was any prog-punk, the whole thing happened in 80s with XTC,  PublicImageLimited and Stranglers.
 
Ditto.
 
And the whole thing should be included in this site under Prog-Related, togheter with Prog-Blues, Prog-Electronic, Jazz-Fusion and Folk-Rock.
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all hail the mighty CARDIACS!!!!

plus:
NOMEANSNO
early STRANGLERS
KILLING JOKE
some TUBES
NINA HAGEN BAND (germany, late 70s)

anyone else?
progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Inner City Unit definitely were what I would call "prog punk".


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A band I discover recently: RUINS.
 
Of what I know (not that much i guess), it sound pretty punk and pretty prog to me.
 
When you name XTC (and Talk Talk i guess) I think you're confusing with post-punk genre, like joy division and all the bands from early 80's.
 
I think RUINS keep the spirit of punk (something people refer to the band as Avant-Punk, guess in a sense of "avant-garde").
 


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Prog & Punk? Maybe Ruins from JapanErmm
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Canadian band Grim Skunk ,from Montreal.
They mix classical,metal and raw energy punk.
The drama and epic quality of prog with the ''take no prisonners'' attitude of punk--must be heard to  believe.
Try their self-titled album,they even do a cover of Uriah Heep's Look at Yourself.
Great Hammond chops,sort of a modern twist on the Purple/Heep/Rooster formula.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by MattiR MattiR wrote:

Prog & Punk? Maybe Ruins from JapanErmm
 
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I don't think they can exist together as prog (as progressive rock) is quite different from punk (as punk rock). If you can see on the page of the definition of prog rock (which I believe you have), prog rock is all about technical stuff while punk is a music "that anyone can play".

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I'm surprised no one's brought up The Mars Volta yet, as they're usually labelled as prog with punk tendencies...although other than the amount of energy and hard-edgedness I don't see the correlation myself 


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Yup TMV is with no doubt prog punk. and meby thats why they are so hated around here..
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I wouldn't have called Ruins punk - if you wanted to call them something other than j-zeuhl you could throw out noise rock or some other useless term. ;)
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Here an example of the prog-punk of Inner City Unit on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCRH7_nTVIk&mode=related&search=


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Prog-frenchrap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aypQrB9Obs

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I think THE MARS VOLTA are definetly prog-punk,and also COHEED and CAMBRIA were described in Rolling Stone magazine as being a punk band who plays a prog style.
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Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

I'm surprised no one's brought up The Mars Volta yet, as they're usually labelled as prog with punk tendencies...although other than the amount of energy and hard-edgedness I don't see the correlation myself 


I have all three TMV albums, and I really see very little punk in them, except for the occasional fast-and-furious riff. Even their phenomenal debut album, "De-loused in the Comatorium", had very little connection with their emo past - except for the high-energy approach that you rightly mentioned.
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Originally posted by The Rock The Rock wrote:

Canadian band Grim Skunk ,from Montreal.
They mix classical,metal and raw energy punk.
The drama and epic quality of prog with the ''take no prisonners'' attitude of punk--must be heard to  believe.
Try their self-titled album,they even do a cover of Uriah Heep's Look at Yourself.
Great Hammond chops,sort of a modern twist on the Purple/Heep/Rooster formula.
 
 
 
 
One could also mention the other quintessential Montreal band Groovy Aardvark.  A mix of hard rocking prog with a punk attitude, with top notch musicianship.  Definitely worth checking out.  Especially their first album, 'Eater's Digest'.
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