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    Posted: February 01 2007 at 12:01
Hey everyone !
 
If this is not in the proper section, feel free to change it.
 
I could'nt help but notice a big buzz concerning something called Post Rock, yet I have close to no idea what it's about.  Anoyone care to fill me in ?  What's the sound, who are the major bands, what albums should I try, etc...
 
Thanks for your valuable insights !
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 12:08
I suggest you listen to the tracks "Moya" by godspeed you! black emperor and "The only place we were alone" by explosions in the sky. That till give you a good idea of what it can sound like, and it's two somewhat similar tracks, except that the former is much more moody and dark, while the latter is much happier and less depressing. :)

Edit: My favourite post rock album is "F#A#oo" by godspeed, but most tend to like "lift your skinny fists like antennas to heaven" more. And it's certainly a lot more polished in sound, so it depends what you want. Sigur ros and Godspeed are the two biggest bands as far as i know, and they sound very different.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 12:24
The post-rock signum is often very long compositions (15-25min) where so called "slow build-ups" are used in virtually every song to create a catharsis  or climax. The mood is often depressing but at the same time hopeful. The use of classical instruments as violins  and various trumpets can be very prominent and adds to the orchestral feel. Nothing technically fancy regarding instrument-playing, I wouldn't say minimalistic but, well compared to most prog-giants atleast, but I rather point out the importance of the  instruments relation to each other.

I' m sure there is some more specific guideline out there...this is just my one minute analysis...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 13:11

magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 13:40
Originally posted by soundspectrum soundspectrum wrote:

magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try.



Since when is The Flaming Lips a Post-Rock band? Confused


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:09
Thanks for starting this thread Melomaniac. I was also wondering the same thing. The Godspeed You! Black Emperor album I have (f#a#infinity symbol) which is really good. I like it a lot. I will definetly be checking this thread out from time to time to see if I can find stuff that can expand my tastes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:26
Originally posted by soundspectrum soundspectrum wrote:

magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try.

The Flaming Lips aren't even prog, much less post-rock.
 
The four pillars of post-rock, that define which direction a post-rock band will go, although many of these are actually second generation post-rock bands are probably Mogwai (more guitar dominant without using e-bow, in their early years heavier than most post-rock), Sigur Ros (ethereal e-bow music with lots of keyboards and whatnot; they never get too heavy), GYBE (more orchestral and melancholic, although from Lift... on the guitars become more dominant), and Tortiose (as far as I know, they do not have the soft-loud formula that other post-rock bands use; they create soundscapes). At least that is how I see it, but I don't have a huge amount of experience so I may be wrong.
 
Moya--GYBE, The Only Moment We Were Alone (this is kind of what early Mogwai sounds like)--EITS, Staralfur or Untitled 08--Sigur Ros, and Ratts of the Capitol (for later Mogwai) are probably pretty good ideas of what you might get from post-rock. And of course, you should check out 65daysofstatic simply because they sound like nothing else.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:28
Originally posted by soundspectrum soundspectrum wrote:

magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try.

 
The Flaming Lips post rock???
 
 
I would personally start off with some Godspeed, Sigur Ros, EITS, Red Sparowes, or Mogwai.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:31
Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Thanks for starting this thread Melomaniac. I was also wondering the same thing. The Godspeed You! Black Emperor album I have (f#a#infinity symbol) which is really good. I like it a lot. I will definetly be checking this thread out from time to time to see if I can find stuff that can expand my tastes.
 
Exactly what I plan on doing.  As a musician I need fresh ideas and input, and post rock is really intriguing.
 
Judging by what I have read so far, I'll start my explorations with GYBE, Explosions in the Sky, Sigur Ros and Mogwaï.
 
Keep the comments coming and thanks for those already posted.  I'll keep you all posted when I get albums by these bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:36

Everything you listed has sample songs on this site, so be sure to take advantage of that. Also, the Post-rock thread might help you also, although they talk a lot about obscure post-rock groups.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:40
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

Everything you listed has sample songs on this site, so be sure to take advantage of that. Also, the Post-rock thread might help you also, although they talk a lot about obscure post-rock groups.

 
Thanks, already listened to Explosions in the Sky (that sample from Earth is not a Cold Dead Place) and I liked it.  Need to hear more from them. 
 
Someone told me that GYBE is mainly responsible for the soundtrack to 28 Days Later, soundtrack which I really liked while watching the film.  Were the songs written for the film or can they be found on one of their albums ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:59
That's not entirely true. Part of East Hastings (or it might have been The Dead Flag Blues) from f#a#(infinity) were included in it, but I don't think it was the majority of the music, and it's not on the 28 Days Later soundtrack because they are bunch of far-left anti-globalization Canadians, so they refuse to participate with any major label.
 
Pandora.com and free napster.com usually have many of these bands because most of them are actually very famous. Napster in particular is good becuause you can often listen to full albums multiple times for free. For Pandora, put in a band, and then once the song finishes delete the station and start another one on the same group. Soon enough you will run into repeats, but in the meantime you get to hear lots of free music that usually is fairly representative of their sound. You do have to be careful, however. For example, Pandora will often play a song from How Strange, Innocence, for EITS, when in fact that album is their debut EP and so is not quite like The Earth is not a Cold Dead Place. Or they will do something from Yangui UXO, when the other godspeed albums (particularly f#a#(infinity)) are not as guitar-dominated. But on the flip side, I once got Providence, which is not a half hour of free music. BTW, if you do listen to it in some form, there's four minutes of silence near the end; your internet/CD player hasn't crapped out. :)
 
And the more obscure groups usually have sample songs on their website or MySpace. One thing I most regret is that I didn't actually hear enough before I made some of my purchases. It's all well and good to read about how much other people like it, but they can be coming from completely different musical perspectives, as I found out.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:09
I'll be glad to recommend some bands to start getting into the genre, but I need some background info first. Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:11
I really enjoyed the GYBE I have. But I don't know where to go from there. Except maybe getting more GYBE albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:16
Try Sigur Ros and Explosions In The Sky, I'm sorry I can't recommend more bands as I've only listened to SR, EITS and GYBE
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:29
I'd say explosions in the sky is the best place for a beginner. 
'The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place' is the way to go.  This band has the rare ability to conjure raw emotion out of thin air with nothing but 3 guitars and a drum set.  absoluely epic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:34
Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

I really enjoyed the GYBE I have. But I don't know where to go from there. Except maybe getting more GYBE albums.

You can also check out A Silver Mt. Zion, one of the many GYBE related bands. I think is better to have a bit more variety so check out Red Sparowes - At the Soundless Dawn. It's a very powerful and emotional album. Or you can also check out the "usual suspects" like Mogwai, Sigur Ros, Explosions in the Sky and Do make Say Think.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:39
I like Slint and Shellac... *moves for some sort of proto-post-rock section just to add confusion*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:40
post rock has absolutly nothing to do with progressive rock. the flaming lips may very well have invented the genre, and a lot these bands that are being mentioned are more so ambient then post rock. i suppose since they arent show offs that writes them off as some non-elitist band eh???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:47

Listening to Mogwai last night, I realized that I might learn to like the genre after all, and listening to the climax of Ratts of the Capital Now... I'm sure of it.

After that, it'll be Sigur Ros to see just how great an effect has been wrought by Mogwai on my poor little brain.  And then it's off to some GY!BE.

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