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Fuzz wrote: Tony R wrote: Fuzz wrote: Tony R wrote: johnobvious wrote: A few of you call the concept "Stupid."  Okay, super geniuses, post some of your lyrics and then I'll go ahead and read one of two and then dismiss you and your work out of hand.  What a joke.  When you can carry SW's jockstrap (to borrow a sports analogy) then I might give anything you ever have said in your life one second of my time. Cool it, they know not what they say....     Bless the poor little lambs. They havent read the lyrics yet and them calling the theme "stupid" has probably made Steven's day! I was merely saying that from the information that was given, the overall concept seems kind of stupid. I know that in the end it won't be, because it's being handled by SW, but if any other person did this, the outcome would probably be really stupid and shallow (not pun intended.) I have faith in SW, don't worry. I know that it's not always the concept, but rather, what you do with it that's important. He can make it work. How about we simplify it for you? Its about how today's youth cannot relate to anything unless it is presented as a simple soundbite, has visual representation like a music video or is contained in the context of a video game. It has to be flashy and trashy and avoid higher, more cerebral concepts for fear of being branded "stupid". Ok, stop talking down to me. I understand the concept. I just don't like it. I think it's stupid and it has been done before. I don't even think you've read anything I've posted, so I'm just going to end this little side conversation. I get what SW's doing with this album. What I don't understand is that you feel the need to defend Steve when I haven't truly said anything offensive. Hell, I even said that SW had the ability to make me re-think my preconceptions of the album's theme. I'm not saying that the end result will be stupid, or that SW is stupid for coming up with this particular theme, but I do think that the overall concept has been done to death and that we'll have to wait and see if the final result is as bad as it COULD be. PT is one of my favorite bands btw.

I am not suggesting you think SW is stupid, nor do I think he needs defending. I have no time for people who take offence on behalf of rock stars or celebrities.

What does need defending is your statement, or at the very least it needs explaining.

So if you dont want to be "talked down to" as you put it, tell me, how the heck is the concept "stupid"?

You are entitled to your opinion but some explanation as to how you came to your conclusion would make your position that bit more palatable......
      
    

Edited by Tony R - January 08 2007 at 18:06

Fuzz wrote: I was merely saying that from the information that was given, the overall concept seems kind of stupid. I know that in the end it won't be, because it's being handled by SW, but if any other person did this, the outcome would probably be really stupid and shallow (not pun intended.) I have faith in SW, don't worry. I know that it's not always the concept, but rather, what you do with it that's important. He can make it work.

Actually, Roger Waters was in this same territory in 'Amused to Death.' Less about videogames and the internet and reality shows and more specifically about the corporate homogenization of world culture and televised war as entertainment (and the equivalent of a videogame), but the same general idea.

(Not to mention Nirvana: "Here we are now, entertain us....")

I wonder how the Alex Lifeson and Robert Fripp contributions went?

I know Wes has a studio in Florida and Alex has a house in Naples....so maybe Steve and Alex got to meet.

Mr Fripp seems to suggest in his diary that he just did his bit and emailed it on.

What a cross-section personalities..genial Alex and intense Bob Fripp with the enigmatic Mr Wilson somewhere in between.

Hmmm, the band made it quite clear...

Edited by Tony R - January 29 2007 at 16:32

Fight Club wrote: So how do you know track 3 didn't make it on?

So do you know if another song we have yet to hear is replacing it? Because I'm pretty sure 6 songs are supposed to be on the album.

Is anyone here a member of the band's Yahoogroup "Dark Matter"? A first impression review was posted there yesterday, I think. The writer says that he, after *only* two listens, thinks the album is a bit of a mixture between The Sky moves Sideways and In Absentia, with all tracks forming one coherent piece of music.

Now I'm really looking forward to hearing it!

From Sea Of Tranquility Prog Site:

"Joining a small band of Media representatives from New York City, our own Ken Pierce was priveleged to listen to the new Porcupine Tree CD; a crunching Progressive Rock epic entitled Fear Of A Blank Planet. The album will hit the streets on April 24, 2007 and should surprise some of his fans. Founder and creative Mastermind Steven Wilson was present at the listening and told the group that the album was one long contiguous piece of music. It runs approximately fifty minutes in length, and while segmented with various movements, it still becomes part of the larger whole. Wilson mused that he opted against making the whole thing one 80 minute song and went with 50 just like in the good old days of Prog music. We enjoyed the 5.1 mix of the recording in one of the rooms of Legacy Studios and were treated to the piece in surround sound as well. It is a very intense piece of music at times with thundering drums and riffs that will impress any guitar player and yet when it slows down it is passionate and sublte in the truest sense. I asked Wilson if he felt that this was among the heaviest material he has delivered to date and he replied "yes, it might very well be". The long time fans of the Progressive Rock genius will not be disappointed in the album for while it is heavier than they might expect there is also a multitude of musical valleys and time signature changes that they have come to appreciate over the course of the bands career. From here, Wilson would head off to Abbey Road studios to repeat the listening process over there. He joked when we began and said "what we are going to hear, no what YOU are going to hear, since I have been doing this for three months aleady, is the new recording, and I will come back when its done". When Wilson returned to the studio room he was met with applause and whistles and he cracked a casual smile and politely thanked us for being part of the evening. We were not provided with any track-listing information or the titles for the segments under the piece, but regardless I look forward to this albums release and feel it will snare an even larger audience for this well-deserving band. Ken Pierce. "

courtesy of http://seaoftranquility.org/

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I'm hoping you don't also do that before concerts. If you do... I'm hoping I never get seated next to you!