Banned

you guys are a nazi regime!!!





In all seriousness Bob, I'd say you are in the middle. I know some forums which are much more lenient, and I know others that just ridiculously closed-minded and unfriendly.

laplace wrote: Easy Livin wrote: A question (or two) for those of you with experience of other forums. Where's does Progarchives forum sit in terms of civility, strictness vs. freedom of speech, number of members who get banned/warned/suspended, friendliness etc., compared to other forums (music related or not)? we're cultured art-lovers with well-refined taste ;) so abolishing criticism is a large step backwards. we should keep each other honest!

I agree with this.

Never, no, not.

Easy Livin wrote: A question (or two) for those of you with experience of other forums. Where's does Progarchives forum sit in terms of civility, strictness vs. freedom of speech, number of members who get banned/warned/suspended, friendliness etc., compared to other forums (music related or not)?

I'm a member of several forums, only a few of which are related to music. The more technical ones tend to be quite nerdy, and we all now how tricky choice of words is when dealing with real nerds . Fights do happen there, but are forgotten the next day or so.

As for PA: I think your policy is good, and the members are quite well behaved. We even sort out our own misunderstandings. And recently I even noticed an admin allowing someone to become a bit angry and direct, because he was found to be fairly defending his case. Well done, freedom of speech may have limits, but you seem to have put them in the right place.
One concern: collabs and prog reviewers  are humans like the rest of us. Don't forget to protect them from themselves, like you protect the rest of us!
I felt bad seeing one collab leave the forums (for good?) because of ongoing fights with another collab, with hardly any (maybe none, not sure) interference from the admins.


Edited by Angelo - January 28 2007 at 18:00

The only other forum I'm a regular member of is a psy-trance dance forum - it's considerably smaller than PA, partly due to the minority appeal of the music itself & partly down to the fact it's membership are 99% English; you do get the occasional spat flaring up, but very rarely, overall it seems to be pretty much self-policed (although there are a couple of moderators gathering dust somewhere)& very friendly.

Oh - hang on, I'm also a member of a folk-rock band's forum (Leatherat), which is very friendly and has never seen an argument - probably because it appears apart from the band itself, I'm the only other member

Given the size of Progarchives, I'm generally surprised at how few problems actually come up, especially taking into account the range of ages and nationalities we have here; when they do come up, it is usually within the DNRTM section, and 99% of those times, it is down to politics or religion - whilst I'd not advocate banning such discussions (I've learned a great deal from some of these threads), I 100% support the moderators' decisions to close or delete those threads where the arguments bocome too personal, vehement or extreme (and we've all seen how extreme some ex-members views have been in the past), and following on from that argument, where moderators or the admin team make the decision to warn, remove or ban a member, be assured this is only done as a very last resort, and only after every other avenue has been explored.

laplace wrote: most other forums allow some degree of good-natured ridicule to transpire between members whereas here I've been warned away from making even the most innocuous comments. that coupled with the "only post positive topics" movement pretty much pushes constructive criticism to the sidelines.

Here I disagree.

This site actively encourages open debate, and there are examples everywhere of good natured ridicule & out-and-out p+++ taking. I also think you are reading the 'only post positive comments' policy incorrectly - there is nothing wrong with criticism (especially where Pallas's 'The Sentinel' is concerned ), but such criticism has to be balanced - anyone can jump into an argument & say "so-and-so band sucks giant monkey balls", but this is hardly 'constructive' criticism; by al meants criticise a band/album/song/Phil Collins, but do so with balanced arguments (and preferably humour, so salve those who will not agree with your views), not unmitigated negativity, which will only bring the same in return.



I appear to have wandered off thread a tad here...

Bottom line - no, I have never been banned from a forum & sincerely hope I never am from this one (unless there suddenly appears a rule banning ranting on & on & on...)

(has a bad image of a whip cracking lady in leather - poor Joey, and Mickey...) 

Edited by Angelo - January 29 2007 at 11:59

grrrmblll, the fact that I'm not a native English speaker is catching up with me again  Then again, my sight's been slightly impaired for years and I usually don't wear my glasses when using the computer... 




Edited by Angelo - January 29 2007 at 14:21

Yes, temporarily. And because of being accidentally far too aggressive

Easy Livin wrote: A question (or two) for those of you with experience of other forums. Where's does Progarchives forum sit in terms of civility, strictness vs. freedom of speech, number of members who get banned/warned/suspended, friendliness etc., compared to other forums (music related or not)?

Jim Garten wrote: Angelo wrote: Then again, my sight's been slightly impaired for years Mummy always said you'd go blind if you didn't stop it...

You can see right through my posts, can't you...