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hdfisch
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 25 2004 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 513 |
Posted: December 02 2006 at 19:42 | ||
Honestly I find this (as most of this forum here) thread quite futile just because there will always be some people liking this sub-genre and others not. Simply jazz isn't many people's cup of tea but for sure I love Cobham, Mahavishnu, Davis, Chick Corea and Perigeo and any other name I just don't recall in the moment. It's an exciting kind of music!!
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To be prog or not to be, that's not the question!
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12812 |
Posted: December 03 2006 at 07:59 | ||
With lots of acknowledgement to member John Paterson who posted
the following at Fusenet, some wonderful Indonesian jazz fusion:
I have played Indonesian fusion by Discus on my shows but I just found a new guy that burns: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=wiz83vNXGZc (wait for the axe solo) http://www.wayanbal awan.com on doubleneck: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=mlI7zS1E8hQ and for a true melding of cultural extremes: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=MxwC_-AWS9I amazing stuff . . . ~ jwp |
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Alucard
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 10 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 3888 |
Posted: December 07 2006 at 13:25 | ||
Great stuff Dick
it's a pity that some of the clips are so short , interesting custom build double neck.
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
"Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
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Andrea Cortese
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 12:46 | ||
This one is for you, dear jazz-rock experts:
I'm happy to announce that I've recently bought the impressive Venegoni & Co.'s "Live...Somewhere in the Seventies" (live recordings from 1979). Venegoni & Co is the band founded by Gigi Venegoni (ex Arti & Mestieri)
A great collection of jazz-rock live performances! A wonderful experience. The sound's quality is excellent and the general mood is powerful! One of the best I ever listened to! Highly recommended.
Venegoni & Co deserve to be included in this site asap!!!
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Chus
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 16 2006 Location: Venezuela Status: Offline Points: 1991 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 12:49 | ||
Ain Soph from Japan is also recommended... if you like jazz fusion mixed with bits of Genesis, Pink Floyd or Camel you should check it out
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Jesus Gabriel
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12812 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 13:01 | ||
Coincidentally just before Christmas the Fusenet website/discussion group were flagging up Ain Soph as a band to check out - but on my personal checking out with my local prog specialist, I was asked which of the 2 or 3 Ain Sophs did I want. It seemed records/CDs of the jazz rocky one were less common than the others.... So beware, ask before you buy
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Philéas
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 13:43 | ||
Aka
Moon. A wonderful Belgian Jazz band included here in the
archives. They deserve more recognition!
Edited by Philéas - January 15 2007 at 13:44 |
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dwill123
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 19 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4460 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 16:53 | ||
I've seen several references to Larry Coryell but I may have missed specific references to the Eleventh House. The Eleventh House was considered pioneers in the fusion arena along with Mahavishnu Orchestra and RTF. Fusion based with Coryell at the helm. Eleventh House included Larry Coryell - guitar, Randy Brecker (1st album), Mike Lawrence (second album0 - trumpet, Mike Mandel keyboards, Danny Trifan (1st album) John Lee (second album) bass, and Alphonse Mouzon on drums. I highly recommend the first two albums (a few more were made after the second but the sound and personal were different).
Introducing the Eleventh House w\Larry Coryell Level One |
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Andrea Cortese
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 16:57 | ||
Very good recommendations here. So many obscure bands the most of them I've never heard of.
BTW, so none of you have listened to Venegoni & Co? Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 15 2007 at 16:57 |
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Chus
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 16 2006 Location: Venezuela Status: Offline Points: 1991 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 18:16 | ||
^^^I haven't listened to any italian jazz-fusion but hope to do so in the near future
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Jesus Gabriel
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superprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 07 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1354 |
Posted: January 15 2007 at 22:26 | ||
Lucas wrote:
A good database for jazz & jazz-rock afficionados : http://sudo.3.pro.tok2.com/Quest/home/artists/index.html
Yeah tks its a great resource esp with the inclusion of album covers and stuff..tho artists discogs don't appear complete (e.g. Allan Holdsworth or Supersilent) but hell man at least the guy has Supersilent and their related indiv projects featured...yayy!!!!! |
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pero
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2005 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 1242 |
Posted: January 16 2007 at 05:06 | ||
Yes that's true. One mont after Woodstock Hendrix had a gig (charity) in Harlem. First they stole his guitar, than 80% of the audience leave before him (only 500 stayed. He was so disapointed that he finished his appirience with : f**k you and good night. Miles and Hendrix was not very glad that most of their admires and audience was white. |
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Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: January 16 2007 at 05:18 | ||
I'm not an expert in Italian jazz-fusion, but I often visit a very interesting website called "MovimentiProg" (www.movimentiprog.org), which hosts excellent reviews of bands otherwise quite unknown outside Italy. Speakers of Spanish should find it relatively easy to read these reviews and find out about new (and not so new) Italian jazz-fusion acts. In my visits to the site I've read about quite a few of them! |
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12812 |
Posted: January 16 2007 at 05:51 | ||
'Grudge' is probably the wrong word - why did Davis employ so many white musicians in his last 30 years? Why did Miles want the selling power and audiences that bought and attended the new fangled rock music of the late 60's (predominantly white)? Davis was a middle class black American , son of doctors, good education, who because of where his music took him, discovered the worst of racial prejudice. And read and understand the sociology of drug-taking and jazz, e.g. through the autobiography of Mez Mezrow in Really The Blues - - hard drugs when first taken by jazz artists were seen as doors of perception (to borrow author Audous Huxley's terminology), taking them to new compositional and musical heights. Maybe, until they became badly hooked, there was slight truth in this - but once hooked by the man, total f**k-up. At least some of the hard drug users escaped H or whatever. Booze and its addiction for example carried away Bix Beiderbeck at the end of the 20's.
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pero
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2005 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 1242 |
Posted: January 17 2007 at 02:30 | ||
Doors of perception was fascination to Jim Morison also.
John Mclauglin was rare example how to be clean all the time, but he found his drug in religion (Sri Chimony). |
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12812 |
Posted: January 17 2007 at 08:56 | ||
Not according to Paul Stump's Mclaughlin biography, Go Ahead John - happen to be reading it at the moment, along with Michael Palin's Diaries and Richard Dawkins God Delusion. McLaughlin indulged well in London during the 60's on what ever was going, eventually discovering one form of the opiate of the people towards the end of that decade and presumably avoiding dodgy chemicals since.
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polyrythmic
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 02 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 112 |
Posted: January 17 2007 at 17:23 | ||
Jazz Rock is one of my favorite genres, but I have a real obssesion with the Jazzier side of Cantebury Scene!
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12812 |
Posted: January 18 2007 at 05:43 | ||
The best jazz historians will remind that Canterbury - particuarly though Soft Machine - were most influential on the European jazz rock scene, and this happening when jazz rock was just moving above ground in the States. Interesting to read in the Robert Wyatt biography that the American jazz scene were enthusiastic about the Softs too- apparently Miles Davis attended gigs, Ornette Coleman hosted parties for the band (and this before 1970) - I'm damned sure some of Chick Corea's earlier electric playing was influenced by Ratledge. On a very intriguing (repro of a) postcard home, Wyatt reports he sat in which Chicago (in Chicago).
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andu
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: January 26 2007 at 13:21 | ||
Anyone aware of this band, El Grupo? This is the album I got to listen to - http://www.amazon.com/Live-El-Grupo/dp/B000L6AYY0/sr=1-1/qid=1169835365/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0474926-0138366?ie=UTF8&s=music - they would make a great addition to the PA, IMO.
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Alucard
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 10 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 3888 |
Posted: January 26 2007 at 13:47 | ||
'Toto' spinoff with Steve Lukather on guitar & vocals.
"El Grupo's first Live record was released as a special limited edition digipack of 1,000 copies and is sold exclusively at El Grupo's European shows in November 2005 ≈ 50 pieces per show, one per person.
The album features 5 very extended tracks of classic rock and fusion tunes that allow all band members to stretch out and show their unique talent. The live recording captures all the fun and looseness on stage and makes the listener feel the great vibes of the shows. " El Grupo: Steve Lukather - Guitar & Vocals Joey Heredia - Drums, Percussion & Chant Steve Weingart - Keyboards Oskar Cartaya - Bass Tracklist: 1. Dismemberment (15:21)
Lenny Castro/David Garfield 2. I'm Buzzed (16:52)
Michael Landau 3. Birdland (9:45)
J. Zawinul 4. Little Wing (10:14)
Jimi Hendrix 5. Led Boots (13:28)
Max Middleton I will give it a listen!
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
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