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Points: 340 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2006 at 14:52
Originally posted by Ekzodo Ekzodo wrote:

I recently re-listen some old work of the who an they are impresive, they start as a kind-a-like beat band but 1969 with "Tommy" touch the sky, I think that have a lot of prog moments, but before in 1967 thay play in Rolling Stones Circus a mini-opera song call "A quick one while she`s a away" is awesome.

I even think THE WHO have more right to be here than DEEP PURPLE

Also They have to be included:

LED ZEPPELIN (stairway to heaven is a prog hymn)

THE BEATLES (from revolver to abbey road)

JAPAN ( if SYLVIAN is in why not his lead band)

WHAT DO YOU THINK???

 

I agree with you
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Points: 15535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 10:22
I love resurrecting old threads!! Tongue


I think some of The Who's concept albums are almost enough merit to add them.


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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 10:32
Please, let's not go into that againUnhappy... There was a recent thread in the Collabs section about a possible addition of The Who to the DB, and the result was overwhelmingly against it. So, I'd advise you not to hold your breath... Controversial additions only bring turmoil to the site, as I have discovered to my everlasting distress when I added Iron Maiden.
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Points: 15535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 10:33
Now I feel bad for resurrecting this thread. CryUnhappy
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 10:38

Bad Ben, not this kind of thread revival! Angry

 
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Points: 15535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 10:41
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Bad Ben, not this kind of thread revival! Angry

 


I'M SORRY!!!CryUnhappy
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 11:29
Controversial additions and debates are the lifeblood of the site!
 
(Is that controversial too?)
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Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Now I feel bad for resurrecting this thread. CryUnhappy


Ben, please, don't.... You couldn't know about what happens in our inner sanctum!Wink

One thing, though: The Who couldn't be in PP, because their proggier albums - "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia" - were both released after 1970, when Prog had already started. So, the only option would be Prog-Related, though there is very strong resistance to the idea of inducting them in the ranks of the Collabs.
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Points: 15535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 11:36
Why is there a very strong resistance to the idea? I think The Who's rock opera's are wonderful! But thinking of how the front page would be possibly flooded with Who reviews, that doesn't sound like such a cool idea. But they do have proggy elements to them! I mean The Who's "new" release has a rock opera on it (an old one they rerecorded I think).
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It's not about the ratings flood or much of the controversy.
Except the elevated distinct music and movement that "Tommy" & "Quadrophenia" meant (and mean), plus a classic that's "Who's Next" for the band, nothing else of The Who is entirely progressive or strictly influential about prog.
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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 13:39
Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

I am a little late to join in this forum maybe (and I certainly doubt it will be viewed by anyone else!) but I searched, and only this one came out...
 
Otherwise I was going to suggest Who myself (I did, indeed... look at the topic "what the heck are the criteria"...). They certainly deserve a place a lot more than many other bands in proto prog and "so called" prog related sections... (I wouldn't defend Who against Deep Purple, either!!!)
 
They may not have influenced any following "prog" bands (but they certainly influenced many hard rock- heavy metal bands... look how many bands covered Who tracks, notably The Real Me...) but their work stand on their own. Please listen to Sell Out (released in 1967, for God's sake!), Who's Next, and Quadrophenia albums, if you're sick of the Tommy phenomenon...
 
By the way, I really don't understand why they are not considered at least "Art Rock" by music sites (notably AMG), though several of their albums are listed as such...
 
Thumbs up Thumbs Up for The Who!
 
You have it wrong wrt Sell Out - Pete Townshend's idea (and no doubt Kit Lambert was involved somewhere) was to have an album reflecting the then current music output into the UK of off-shore pirate radio (a concept of sorts but no way prog) - indeed the Who were writing advertising jingles for Radio London, some of which are replayed on the album. Sell Out was an album of psychedelic rock interdispersed with real radio adverts - all largely written by Townshend. BTW I Can See For Miles was the Who's valiant attempt to achieve a UK No 1 for the first time - made No.2, only No. 1 in (guess what) Radio London's chart, and this failure was said to be then cause of the Who abandoning the UK to concentrate on full American success for a couple of years.
 
And isn't about time we stop reading the claim that Tommy was the first rock OPERA (thanks TR for the very quick spot).  (I suppose now for the 50th time in PA we beg to report) SF Sorrow is Townshend's personal reference point - and then it was well known Mark Wirtz and Tomorrow's Keith West had started working on one -  for goodness sake they had a No 1 in the UK Charts called Excerpts From A Teenage Opera. And I wonder how much Townshend was aware of the Kink's Ray Davis's first and what turned out delayed concept album, which were greatly impeded by the Kinks' inability to record for a year because of legal action. Read around and you will also find folks suggesting the first rock opera dates back to 1963 - but then other people suggest (the most notably Joe Boyd) that real rock didn't happen until the  summer of 1964..........
 


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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 13:49
More a case for Pete Townshend's inclusion:
 
 
Lifehouse Project,
Psychederelict
Iron Man
White City
 
being 4 obvious concept albums issued under his own name.
 
Amazed so few people not made the effort to check out Lifehouse Project - although the cost of a 6 CD set is marginally off-putting - especially when there are claims of Who's Next being prog - surely a couple of tunes at best? Who's Next along with parts of albums through to Who Are You? were  salvaged from the original wreckage of demos and ideas for the Lifehouse. It took Townshend 30 years to get Lifehouse into shape and be able to  issue a significant amount of material generated between 1969 and 2000 on that 6 CD set. Psychederelict was another attempt to utilise a little of the Lifehouse material.


Edited by Dick Heath - January 26 2007 at 13:56
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Did the TC suggest Meat Loaf?    ... I just died a little inside.
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