Rock Progressivo Italiano appreciation th

C`mon dudes, this thread deserves some claps to Andrea Cortese, new SC!!!  well deserved

You should delete your top artist in your signature, looks awful

Actually i didn´t like that Acqua Fragile album, maybe i need more listens i dunno, but as you said their English lyrics are a low point.

micky wrote: MANDRAKEROOT wrote: Micky wrote: "Mandy - You rock!  Though no clappies until you give Per.. Un Mondo Di Cristallo it's well deserved 4th star " I answer: "To my warning “Per.. Un Mondo Di cristallo" is a good album.  The songs are very good and valid because want to be a hybrid between Jazz and Symphonic Prog.  Nevertheless I find that the production ruin the disk and, therefore, also the songs.  So it is are aged badly and they do not succeed to express their glamour.  However it is true it is an album that deserves 4 stars.  Nevertheless I see it so and for my meter of judgment 3 stars are just." damn.. I've never been turned down for the chance to get clappies   I'm losing it hmmm... the production.. didn't phase me at all... oh well....  great music.. poor production.. I can live with that..

I wanted to come back to this Mandy.  I took the album in to work today.. curious to see if I could hear what you heard that had escaped me.  Had a wonderful listening experience while sitting in the INFERNAL DC traffic this afternoon.  If I can be frank.. I have no clue what the hell you are talking about as far as the production taking away from the album, or soundng dated ..any more than any other album recorded 30+ years ago.  What exactly was it you heard? My curioiusity is greatly aroused.

micky wrote: another album from Micky's favorite list...  recently moved from back with its brothers in RPI,  after the torture of confinement in the labyrinthine dungeons under the fortress Art Rock what an album... thoughts from the RPI lovers out there...

memowakeman wrote: Wonderful album indeed, i love it since the cover art which is beautiful to me, another one of those endless RPI gems. Hey micky i noticed that Formula 3 is also under Art Rock, shoudln`t they be moved to RPI as well?

We have, Guillermo, and we always intended to move them... Now that you've reminded me of that, I'll move them myself later this morning!

Ghost Rider wrote: memowakeman wrote: Wonderful album indeed, i love it since the cover art which is beautiful to me, another one of those endless RPI gems. Hey micky i noticed that Formula 3 is also under Art Rock, shoudln`t they be moved to RPI as well? We have, Guillermo, and we always intended to move them... Now that you've reminded me of that, I'll move them myself later this morning!

To exception of little groups (but that in truth) I would propose actual the genre ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO. 

In fact a lot of Italian groups changed genre also to the inside of an single album.  This happened also abroad.  Nevertheless in Italy the problem was had to to the fact that the Critical did not understand this music and the musicians, that in general were gotten ready, looked for change this problem playing music complicated and that hit the people.  For example the Area carved songs Jazz Rock next to songs totally Symphonic.  The New Trolls are passed from the Proto-Prog and from the Beat to the Symphonic Prog and then to the POP commercial one...  But always with a strong component Prog.  Eugenio Finardi proposed a Rock (above all in the beginning) that is not simply Rock or Art Rock (or how want to call it) because is Prog!!!  Also Sangiuliano that seems very like to Vangelis like concept in reality presents a strong visual component, typical thing of the Italian Prog and that is the glue of the genre. 

However a valid description of the genre I would not know to give it (and, attention, I talk about genre not of stage or movement or other!) 

Andrea Cortese wrote: Yep,   Formula 3 really deserve to come out of the darkness where they're lying, actually... they belong to RPI

And I've just moved them to ISP, which is to become RPI even if the owners don't agree with a name change. Micky and I talked about that when I was in the US over the holidays, but I only remembered to do it now. Thank you for reminding me!

The RPI issue is a very complex one, as I just said. I agree with Mandy, and of course this is also Micky's opinion. However, if you remember well, there was a poll some time ago (I opened it on M.'s behalf), which unfortunately was overwhelmingly against the implementation of a new subgenre for Rock Progressivo Italiano. Therefore, we will make do with what we have, and use the existing subgenre of ISP for those bands who were active in the Seventies, or for those clearly inspired by them.

Ghost Rider wrote: Andrea Cortese wrote: Yep,   Formula 3 really deserve to come out of the darkness where they're lying, actually... they belong to RPI And I've just moved them to ISP, which is to become RPI even if the owners don't agree with a name change. Micky and I talked about that when I was in the US over the holidays, but I only remembered to do it now. Thank you for reminding me! The RPI issue is a very complex one, as I just said. I agree with Mandy, and of course this is also Micky's opinion. However, if you remember well, there was a poll some time ago (I opened it on M.'s behalf), which unfortunately was overwhelmingly against the implementation of a new subgenre for Rock Progressivo Italiano. Therefore, we will make do with what we have, and use the existing subgenre of ISP for those bands who were active in the Seventies, or for those clearly inspired by them.

hahahha I remember that poll... good times indeed hahah. Though  proof again that polls are not worth a damn thing if  people have no clue what they are talking about   The admins let us do it,  swayed by the logic in our arguments and the passion in our hearts hahahha, and  then asked us to prove or at least submit a case why it should be seperate and andrea delivered the goods for us. As I've said about these stupid polls... numbers lie.. logic doesn't....  Check it out, it's a mouthfulll, but worth a read.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33377

I haven't doubt! "Stati Di Immaginazione" by PFM is one of the best Prog album of all time!