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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 17:15 |
^^^
Yep, we have to go on so, until things change, at least.
RPI is is the right word. We usually use this term in Italy to define our peculiar prog scene of the seventies.
ISP is "FLATUS VOCIS" 'cause make other important and relevant classic bands stand far from their "brothers"...
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Raff
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:34 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Yep,
Formula 3 really deserve to come out of the darkness where they're lying, actually... they belong to RPI |
And I've just moved them to ISP, which is to become RPI even if the owners don't agree with a name change. Micky and I talked about that when I was in the US over the holidays, but I only remembered to do it now. Thank you for reminding me! The RPI issue is a very complex one, as I just said. I agree with Mandy, and of course this is also Micky's opinion. However, if you remember well, there was a poll some time ago (I opened it on M.'s behalf), which unfortunately was overwhelmingly against the implementation of a new subgenre for Rock Progressivo Italiano. Therefore, we will make do with what we have, and use the existing subgenre of ISP for those bands who were active in the Seventies, or for those clearly inspired by them.
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memowakeman
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:07 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
memowakeman wrote:
Wonderful album indeed, i love it since the cover art which is beautiful to me, another one of those endless RPI gems.
Hey micky i noticed that Formula 3 is also under Art Rock, shoudln`t they be moved to RPI as well? |
We have, Guillermo, and we always intended to move them... Now that you've reminded me of that, I'll move them myself later this morning!
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Excellent, many thanks Raf
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 05:18 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
memowakeman wrote:
Wonderful album indeed, i love it since the cover art which is beautiful to me, another one of those endless RPI gems.
Hey micky i noticed that Formula 3 is also under Art Rock, shoudln`t they be moved to RPI as well? |
We have, Guillermo, and we always intended to move them... Now that you've reminded me of that, I'll move them myself later this morning!
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To exception of little groups (but that in truth) I would propose actual the genre ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO. In fact a lot of Italian groups changed genre also to the inside of an single album. This happened also abroad. Nevertheless in Italy the problem was had to to the fact that the Critical did not understand this music and the musicians, that in general were gotten ready, looked for change this problem playing music complicated and that hit the people. For example the Area carved songs Jazz Rock next to songs totally Symphonic. The New Trolls are passed from the Proto-Prog and from the Beat to the Symphonic Prog and then to the POP commercial one... But always with a strong component Prog. Eugenio Finardi proposed a Rock (above all in the beginning) that is not simply Rock or Art Rock (or how want to call it) because is Prog!!! Also Sangiuliano that seems very like to Vangelis like concept in reality presents a strong visual component, typical thing of the Italian Prog and that is the glue of the genre. However a valid description of the genre I would not know to give it (and, attention, I talk about genre not of stage or movement or other!)
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 04:38 |
Yep,
Formula 3 really deserve to come out of the darkness where they're lying, actually... they belong to RPI
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Raff
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 01:56 |
memowakeman wrote:
Wonderful album indeed, i love it since the cover art which is beautiful to me, another one of those endless RPI gems.
Hey micky i noticed that Formula 3 is also under Art Rock, shoudln`t they be moved to RPI as well? |
We have, Guillermo, and we always intended to move them... Now that you've reminded me of that, I'll move them myself later this morning!
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MadcapLaughs84
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 01:52 |
Well, I don't know so many italian bands, but the few I know really rock. One of my last additions was Alphataurus and I just got The voice hasn't the same technique as Banco or Il Balletto but the powerful voice of Michele Bavaro is awesome.
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memowakeman
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 22:16 |
micky wrote:
another album from Micky's favorite list... recently moved from back with its brothers in RPI, after the torture of confinement in the labyrinthine dungeons under the fortress Art Rock
what an album...
thoughts from the RPI lovers out there...
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Wonderful album indeed, i love it since the cover art which is beautiful to me, another one of those endless RPI gems.
Hey micky i noticed that Formula 3 is also under Art Rock, shoudln`t they be moved to RPI as well?
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micky
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 19:05 |
another album from Micky's favorite list... recently moved from
back with its brothers in RPI, after the torture of confinement
in the labyrinthine dungeons under the fortress Art Rock
what an album...
thoughts from the RPI lovers out there...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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micky
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 18:59 |
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micky
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 18:54 |
memowakeman wrote:
C`mon dudes, this thread deserves some claps to Andrea Cortese, new SC!!! well deserved
That RRR album is excellent, it is one of those albums that i have
in my albums to review list, but actually i have it since some months
ago , Pholas Dactylus is unknown for me, though i have had the possibility of acquiring it, but i haven`t yet.
Today i bought 3 Italian albums:
Le Orme - Elementi
DFA - Work in Progress (Live) this is excellent
Finisterre - Storybook
I made very nice additions to my collection i think! |
very nice addtions indeed. Have a clappie....
I agree... here's a couple of clappies for Andrea.
Awarded the coveted SC rank by the admin team in recognition of having
survived being being stuck in a team with me for the last month or two Not to mention being considered one of the true 'gentlemen' of the site.
With all respect to Mandy.. see next post... I think the RRR album is
one of the REAL gems of the 2nd division (noteriey-wise)
bands/albums. Most all know the albums by the big 3, however
there are some GREAT albums that are not really as well known.
You really should check out Pholas Dactylus. I really like it.. again not having a clue to the seemingly inane lyrics. It's in my top 10 RPI/ISP albums.
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memowakeman
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 13:30 |
Actually i didnīt like that Acqua Fragile album, maybe i need more listens i dunno, but as you said their English lyrics are a low point.
Meanwhile i can say that Work in Progress by DFA is an excellent live album,jazz oriented but the quality of the musicians is excellent!
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MadcapLaughs84
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 23:56 |
My signature rocks!!!
Well, I discovered Acqua Fragile 3 weeks ago, and they have a strong Genesis influence, the fact of singing in English really disappointed me, but the music is cool by the way, I think they are the weakest italian band I've heard to the date.
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memowakeman
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 23:52 |
You should delete your top artist in your signature, looks awful
Well, i could share some albums, maybe
But why dont you write an opinion about Acqua Fragile
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MadcapLaughs84
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 23:24 |
memowakeman wrote:
C`mon dudes, this thread deserves some claps to Andrea Cortese, new SC!!! well deserved
That RRR album is excellent, it is one of those albums that i have in my albums to review list, but actually i have it since some months ago , Pholas Dactylus is unknown for me, though i have had the possibility of acquiring it, but i haven`t yet.
Today i bought 3 Italian albums:
Le Orme - Elementi
DFA - Work in Progress (Live) this is excellent
Finisterre - Storybook
I made very nice additions to my collection i think! |
U STILL LACK OF SOME DT ALBUMS, LOL.
GREAT ADDITIONS MEMO, DON'T BE ENVIOUS AND SHARE SOME OF THEM
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memowakeman
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 23:13 |
C`mon dudes, this thread deserves some claps to Andrea Cortese, new SC!!! well deserved
That RRR album is excellent, it is one of those albums that i have in my albums to review list, but actually i have it since some months ago , Pholas Dactylus is unknown for me, though i have had the possibility of acquiring it, but i haven`t yet.
Today i bought 3 Italian albums:
Le Orme - Elementi
DFA - Work in Progress (Live) this is excellent
Finisterre - Storybook
I made very nice additions to my collection i think!
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micky
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 19:29 |
MANDRAKEROOT wrote:
Micky wrote: "Mandy - You rock! Though no clappies until you give Per.. Un Mondo Di Cristallo it's well deserved 4th star "
I answer: "To
my warning Per.. Un Mondo Di cristallo" is a good album. The
songs are very good and valid because want to be a hybrid between Jazz
and Symphonic Prog. Nevertheless I find that the production ruin
the disk and, therefore, also the songs. So it is are aged badly
and they do not succeed to express their glamour. However it is
true it is an album that deserves 4 stars. Nevertheless I see it
so and for my meter of judgment 3 stars are just."
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damn.. I've never been turned down for the chance to get clappies I'm losing it
hmmm... the production.. didn't phase me at all... oh well.... great music.. poor production..
I can live with that..
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micky
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 19:26 |
MANDRAKEROOT wrote:
From BTF newsletter:
Brand
new excellent DVD release for the AMS indie label exclusively
distributed by BTF. BANCO LIVE 1980 is a unique concert movie,
professionally filmed in 1980 by director Luigi Faccini, now finally
restored and released on DVD in a special ltd. edition box with an
extensive booklet. This is one of the best live performances of Banco
ever, featuring over 60 minutes of Banco at its best, performing some
of their greatest classics: - Di Terra- Garofano rosso- E mi viene da
pensare- R.I.P.- Interno cittā- Capolinea- Il ragno- Non mi rompete-
Circobanda + a 45 minutes interview with Vittorio Nocenzi titled "La
veritā darwiniana del rock".This DVD is Area 0 encoded (all regions).
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wow On micky's will have list. I NEED this one.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:20 |
From BTF newsletter: Brand new excellent DVD release for the AMS indie label exclusively distributed by BTF. BANCO LIVE 1980 is a unique concert movie, professionally filmed in 1980 by director Luigi Faccini, now finally restored and released on DVD in a special ltd. edition box with an extensive booklet. This is one of the best live performances of Banco ever, featuring over 60 minutes of Banco at its best, performing some of their greatest classics: - Di Terra- Garofano rosso- E mi viene da pensare- R.I.P.- Interno cittā- Capolinea- Il ragno- Non mi rompete- Circobanda + a 45 minutes interview with Vittorio Nocenzi titled "La veritā darwiniana del rock".This DVD is Area 0 encoded (all regions).
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Trickster F.
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Posted: January 23 2007 at 10:37 |
Hi,
Is "Banco 1980" prog or pop? I am only interested in the former, their early releases are amongst my Italian prog favourites.
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