Edenbridge, more prog than metal?

^ agreed. As I pointed out in the review that I posted on the previous page, the last track is quite progressive, but the others aren't. IMO they deliberately chose to make the other songs less complex.

Ghost Rider wrote: Tarcisio Moura wrote: PS _ I do consider the guys in the PMT competent and hard workers. As much as anyone in this site. I loath any hate mail. Addresss your  point with good arguments or nothing at all. Tarcisio, did anyone address you any hate mail? If so, could you inform any of us Admins by PM, please? This is not something people should get away with. Disagreeing civilly is one thing, sending hate mail is quite another.

Dear Ghost Rider:

I think I did not wrote the right words. I was addressing a message to people who may want to write hatemail. One of the team wrote he got some of that. I think it´s unfair since we have such an open space to reply here. That´s all. Fortunatly I did not get that kind of mail. Thanks for your interest.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^Incidentally: You're welcome to visit my website (http://www.progtology.com) - there you'll be able to not only rate Edenbridge albums, but also help determine their genre, it's all community driven. Yesterday I revisited Edenbridge - The Grand Design, have a look: http://www.progtology.com/db/albums/_auto_5425367.xhtml

Dear Mike:

Thanks for the invitation. I surely will visit it.

Recently, i just got the album Shine. Though this album has more prog element that The Grand Design, i'll put their 'proginess' at about the same level as the band 'Epica'(still less than Kamelot). So still not prog enough to be included in the site IMO...

i have it and Phantom Agony. IMO Epica are slightly less than Kamelot

btw, Epica also not listed in the site right ?
    

Edited by kazansky - January 21 2007 at 09:31

Tarcisio Moura wrote: kazansky wrote: Recently, i just got the album Shine. Though this album has more prog element that The Grand Design, i'll put their 'proginess' at about the same level as the band 'Epica'(still less than Kamelot). So still not prog enough to be included in the site IMO... Dear Kazansky: I wonder if we are talking about the same CD. Not prog enough? Less than Kamelot? Wow! You got to be kidding. And I AM a Kamelot fan! I´ve been a prog fan for over 30 years, have listen to thousands albums and CDs and being myself a musician who played bass and guitar since I was 17 I think I have a little knowledge of what are prog elements to make a band progressive or not. To me, the fans and dozens of sites Edenbridge is a prog metal band. Ok, the PMT does not consider them Prog Metal, I don´t agree, but I respect their opinion. But they do have a lot of prog elements. Enough and more than dozens of bands included here, whatever they deserve to be on PA or not. And they´re very good! Respectfully Tarcísio Moura

well, people do have different opinion on different things . actually i'm a bit confused with this album. some of it are prog, maybe at Kamelot's level, when some are not, and IMHO there're less prog track in this album

perhaps i'm not experienced enough to pass my judge on this . maybe the PMT could try to give this one a try ?

Of course they have songs there are more or less progressive than others. That´s why when I sent the songs to PA I tried to give a wide view of their music. Songs like Last Step Beyond and Sunrise in Eden are pure symphonic prog (ok, with heavier guitars), while Take Me Back is an acoustic tune (it reminds of Renaissance ballads like I think Of You). On the other hand, you have tunes like Skyward, a fast power metal song, albeit with a twist (the atmospheric keyboards, the very melodic solo and the angelical vocal are definitly odd for a metal band). They add eastern and new age elements, but if you listen very close you´ll see that their main source was, even in their heavier songs, classical music. That´s the prog element that is always present in Edenbridge´s work. Lanvall never plays a guitar solo like your average HM or even Hard Rock musician does. Edenbridge´s music is a mix of different, odd sources, but they are subtle. No wonder many people don´t really understand them.

All reviews I read about their last CD cites it as their weakest, which may have been a source for this misunderstanding. A bad CD does not really spoils a career.

Hi, Waywardson:

Thanks for writing your opinion here. Yes, Sabine Edelsbacher´s voice is really beautiful. There´s a bonus DVD on their Livetime In Eden live CD with them playing live and proving she needs no studio gimmicks. I did not notice how few prog metal bands have a girl singing. You´re right, because  she makes a big dfference singing a style like this.

Best regards!

Tarcísio Moura