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White Shadow
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Topic: Hackett or Petrucci? Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:38 |
My friend of lesser looks and musical tastes and I quarrel a lot. Who, is the better guitarist, musician, and who had the better band? Also, who makes the btter music? Hackett hands down for me. Just my opinion.
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Lota
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:41 |
Steve Hackett
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:42 |
Oh man. First of all, a warning to future posters: Please don't make make outlandish statements against Petrucci. I've seen enough of these to know the future!
As to the question at hand, I think Hackett is definitely the better songwriter, and Petrucci probably the bestter musician, but technical skill only means something is you can write engaging songs.
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:45 |
both are poor songwriters (yes it's my opinion, thats obvious, so i dont need an IMO...)
so the edge has to go to Petrucci in mere ability
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:46 |
Hackett, more trascendental, skilled, complete and versatile.
IMO no contest.
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:49 |
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:50 |
^^^
why?
nostalgia ruling here once again
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:53 |
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish here.
You know that Hackett is better in your opinion and that Dream Theater and the "unemotional w**kery" of Petrucci is hated here, so I don't think this thread really accomplishes anything.
Just my opinion, and I don't think you can compare the two.
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:54 |
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:54 |
MajesterX wrote:
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish here.
You know that Hackett is better in your opinion and that Dream Theater and the "unemotional w**kery" of Petrucci is hated here, so I don't think this thread really accomplishes anything.
Just my opinion, and I don't think you can compare the two.
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sure you can of course, getting a mature discussion about it is what's difficult i find both to be poor songwriters and terribly overrated in their respective fields, though I think Petrucci is extremely technically proficient
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 21:57 |
Hackett defintly had a very strong influence on guitarists that cxame after him...but in the case of mere skill and overall talent i think Petrucci takes it away. He has all the skill Hackett has and more.. i think hackett may write a little bit better than Petrucci but again skill wise Petrucci wins in my eyes..
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 22:36 |
i'm a drummer, and cant speak very well on the grounds of who the better technician is. But hackett is more tasteful and charismatic for sure, alot easier to listen to.
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 22:42 |
Technically Petrucci is better, but hands down Hackett is miles ahead of Petrucci for me! Hackett knows how to make meaningful music, that you feel.
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Posted: January 18 2007 at 23:47 |
i don't get why people always say you can't compare two things.... you can compare anything on some level!
the fact that both of these guys play guitar is enough to make some kind of comparison, so don't try to kill the conversation by saying you CANT compare them.
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Posted: January 19 2007 at 00:01 |
When Petrucci reaches HAckett's age and years of playing, then we can compare. For now, I'd have to go with Hackett even though the best solos and best moments for me are by Petrucci, but just the experience makes Hackett probably more versatile.
Of course, it would be good if everybody takes a lookn at Petrucci playing with Rudess acoustic...then call him what you want.
I'm being a complete farce. As much as I want to say Hackett is better, I really can't. They're on the same level.
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Posted: January 19 2007 at 00:20 |
Hackett for sheer versatility alone. Maybe Petrucci could reach that level after some more years, but I think Hackett had him beat back in the '70s. If you knew all of his work, you would see how obvious this is.
Edited by bhikkhu - January 19 2007 at 00:21
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Posted: January 19 2007 at 00:30 |
I'll begin this post by saying that DT is not among my listening list, although I have heard some of their stuff (mostly Images & Words & A Change Of Seasons. Fine guitar player, Mikey is; but once more it comes down to feel, to talent & not just technique. Hackett was an "ensemble " player. And so he doesn't "stand" out as much. But his contribution (as regularly noted on these pages) was important to the Genesis sound. Another consideration is the level of technique among guitar players in his time. As some have noted, Steve Vai can outplay Jimmy Page, but poll your average music fan & Page's "memorable" tunes outnumber Vai's by a wide margin. I usually use Yingwie Malmsteen as an example, as he is generally considered technically better than his hero Blackmore, but you don't a have folks crying out for any of his compositions compared to Ritchie's songbook (Smoke on the Water, Burn, Child IN Time etc ...). And the final nail in the argument's coffin - folklore has it that Hackett "invented" tapping. Yes, big revelation, it was not Eddie Van Halen, but Mr Steve that was the first to do it, on record anyway, you can check out Supper's Ready for the proof ....
Edited by pantacruelgruel - January 19 2007 at 00:32
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Posted: January 19 2007 at 04:16 |
once again, another episode of our favourite
progarchives-telenovela "APPLES VS. ORANGES"
me: hackett. music isn't sports.
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Posted: January 19 2007 at 05:31 |
It's not a question of who is better - after all no-one can say one way or the other - it's all opinion. Unless you get the two to take some sort of test !
The things is...........why on earth would you want to?
What does it matter? If you like them both then enjoy them both. If you only like one then it becomes a mud slinging process against the other.
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Posted: January 19 2007 at 06:26 |
Glueman wrote:
The things is...........why on earth would you want to?
What does it matter? If you like them both then enjoy them both. If you only like one then it becomes a mud slinging process against the other. |
well said, glueman.
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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