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oliverstoned
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Posted: July 22 2004 at 04:46 |
...less complex than aqua)
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James Lee
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Posted: July 22 2004 at 09:15 |
going off on a little tangent here, but fellow fans of early electronic music should be interested...I just ordered a book/ CD from Raymond Scott- anyone else ever heard of him? I hadn't, until a week or so ago, but apparently he had most of the electronic pioneers beat in innovation and musical creativity (not to mention being a "Looney Tunes" composer!). In the 50s he was doing stuff that compares to Kraftwerk and Carlos.
Once I give it a good listen, I'll report back to ya
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greenback
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Posted: August 14 2004 at 23:46 |
with 30 albums owned, call me THE TD specialist!
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dropForge
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Posted: August 15 2004 at 02:34 |
with 30 albums owned |
That's all?
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dropForge
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Posted: August 15 2004 at 02:40 |
jM Jarre is too commercial and repetitive to be real prog. |
What I've been saying for years! I own a couple of Jarre's discs, but I never upgraded the rest to CD because JMJ is way, way overrated.
And while everyone is raving about Froese's Aqua, let me state that Stuntman is his best album!
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greenback
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Posted: August 15 2004 at 19:35 |
dropForge wrote:
jM Jarre is too commercial and repetitive to be real prog. |
And while everyone is raving about Froese's Aqua, let me state that Stuntman is his best album!
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Stuntman is his best, followed by epsilon in malaysian pale
jarre is too new age to be prog.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: August 15 2004 at 20:08 |
Have you heard Marty Friedman's new age album, Scenes? I love it... Kitaro has some good stuff too.
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dropForge
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Posted: August 15 2004 at 20:43 |
If you've never heard Kitaro's Astral Voyage, Oasis, In Person, and Ki, those are his best! I'd start with Astral Voyage, which is actually his first solo album from 1978. He's "prog" way more 'n' Jarre!
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Gonghobbit
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Posted: August 15 2004 at 21:51 |
18 to 0 so far, I wouldn't have thought such a ratio, but I think they
do qualify, if perhaps being a bit on the edge, but still a damn good
band, I wish i had all their stuff.
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'This is a local shop, there's nothing for you here'
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philippe
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Posted: August 16 2004 at 03:02 |
richardh wrote:
Perhaps there could be a partial discography ie 1970-1983 (encompassing the Virgin years up to and including 'Hyperborea'). That would be my suggestion.Anyone agree?
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I totally agree with you richardh for a partial TD discography...the blue and melrose years don't deserve a page on a prog site, commercial synth music...really far from the mindblowing and very complex music offered on albums such as Alpha Centauri, Zeit, Phaedra...
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: August 16 2004 at 09:00 |
I think that, if some band or artist is going to be filed in the Prog Archives, their whole discography should be included. Genesis's Invisible Touch and Yes's Open Your Eyes are listed, right?
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dropForge
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Posted: August 16 2004 at 10:17 |
That's right, not to mention that the albums right after the Virgin years - Poland: The Warsaw Concert, Le Parc, Underwater Sunlight, Tyger, and the Green Desert reissue - aka the Relativity years, are excellent, just a bit different. Yes, the Melrose years (1988-1990) and Miramar years (1991-1996) (except for Oasis) and onward, for the most part are pretty stinky but it has to be all or nothing.
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richardh
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Posted: August 16 2004 at 13:11 |
Too much of the later TD music was just 'churned out'.I'd still stick to my guns on the partial discography but if the whole discography is included I won't complain.
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: August 16 2004 at 15:20 |
Consider this: their 2001 album 'Inferno' is actually an exquisite work of epic splendour, somewhere between their 74-77 era and Vangelis' latest epics (El Greco, Mythodea)... and it wouldn't make it in the partial discography shuould it be applied.
Regards.
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greenback
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Posted: August 16 2004 at 22:55 |
underwater sunlight is absolutely excellent!!
Froese's guitar at its best! Tyger too!
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dropForge
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Posted: August 16 2004 at 23:22 |
Yes, Underwater Sunlight is a phenomenal work! It's the last really, really good album they did. Back when each album had a completely different sound than the last. If you like, you can also argue for Tyger, but even though I liked it a lot at the time, Optical Race was the end of TD being an *innovative* act.
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richardh
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Posted: August 17 2004 at 03:07 |
I agree with dropForge although 'Goblins Club' is an interesting later release.
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richardh
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Posted: August 17 2004 at 03:10 |
Cesar Inca wrote:
Consider this: their 2001 album 'Inferno' is actually an exquisite work of epic splendour, somewhere between their 74-77 era and Vangelis' latest epics (El Greco, Mythodea)... and it wouldn't make it in the partial discography shuould it be applied.
Regards.
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I havn't got that one but I do like the Vangelis albums you mention.Maybe I'll check Inferno out if it's not too 'pricey'.
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M@X
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Posted: August 17 2004 at 07:47 |
TANGERINE DREAM will be added ...
This is a real good use of the POLLS SYSTEM guys !!!
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Prog On !
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Bryan
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Posted: August 17 2004 at 13:49 |
philippe wrote:
richardh wrote:
Perhaps there could be a partial discography ie 1970-1983 (encompassing the Virgin years up to and including 'Hyperborea'). That would be my suggestion.Anyone agree?
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I totally agree with you richardh for a partial TD discography...the blue and melrose years don't deserve a page on a prog site, commercial synth music...really far from the mindblowing and very complex music offered on albums such as Alpha Centauri, Zeit, Phaedra...
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I don't know. I mean, we don't leave post-Steve Hackett Genesis off the Genesis page. Nor do we leave off Yes albums featuring Trevor Rabin. Or Rush after Moving Pictures. I think that if a band has had prog works, their entire discography should get listed, prog or not.
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