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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 21:15
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

     The PFM sample was quite good. But none of my usual internet CD sources are selling it. CD Universe had it under the backorder category. PFM's web site is in Italian. If CD Universe doesn't come through, can anyone point me to internet store where I can get it?

    
Have you tried Laser's Edge?

www.lasercd.com

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If you need more sources and online stores, PM me.


    

Edited by avestin - January 17 2007 at 21:18
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 21:12
    The PFM sample was quite good. But none of my usual internet CD sources are selling it. CD Universe had it under the backorder category. PFM's web site is in Italian. If CD Universe doesn't come through, can anyone point me to internet store where I can get it?

Update. Looks like CD Universe will come through for me on this one. It's now showing up as "Scheduled to release Tuesday, January 23, 2007"
    

Edited by Slartibartfast - January 17 2007 at 21:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:50
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:


Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Well, 2007 is sizing up to be a damn fine year. I sure hope we can do better than Kayo Dot because I was expecting a lot more.

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Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks I guess, as I loved Dowsing (as well as the debut, Choirs of the Eye). Cheer up, Eric, there's a lot of good stuff coming out this year.


My man, it's going to take a lot more than a less-than-flattering sample of Kayo Dot to bring me down. The new Marillion is being mastered this week and should be out around my birthday, got a new Rush disc around the corner, new Dream Theater to accompany that, and then the new Neal Morse next month. I'm as happy as Rosie O'Donnell in a Hostess® outlet store!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:43
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Well, 2007 is sizing up to be a damn fine year. I sure hope we can do better than Kayo Dot because I was expecting a lot more.

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Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks I guess, as I loved Dowsing (as well as the debut, Choirs of the Eye). Cheer up, Eric, there's a lot of good stuff coming out this year.Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:41
Well, 2007 is sizing up to be a damn fine year. I sure hope we can do better than Kayo Dot because I was expecting a lot more.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:39
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

How in the @#$!& did Kayo Dot become prog disc of the year? This sample is bloody awful. Please point me in another direction because if this is the best of 2006, then it was a poor year for prog...according to the collaborators.

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Opinions, opinions, opinions.

It won EASILY.


Not to my taste either, I voted for the more "traditional" albums but it was a Poll conducted among the site collaborators and was fair and above board.

PFM was my top album and I voted for Steve Hackett and Frost* too.

Just think how it will next year when I have to do the poll again and the new Rush album isnt album of the year, or Porcupine Tree...


or Marillion for that matter...
     
    
    
 
Haha, if Rush or PT isn't number one, about 1,000 bricks will be flying through 1,000 windows all over the worldLOL


Edited by Zappa88 - January 17 2007 at 20:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:37
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

How in the @#$!& did Kayo Dot become prog disc of the year? This sample is bloody awful. Please point me in another direction because if this is the best of 2006, then it was a poor year for prog...according to the collaborators.

E

Opinions, opinions, opinions.

It won EASILY.


Not to my taste either, I voted for the more "traditional" albums but it was a Poll conducted among the site collaborators and was fair and above board.

PFM was my top album and I voted for Steve Hackett and Frost* too.

Just think how it will next year when I have to do the poll again and the new Rush album isnt album of the year, or Porcupine Tree...


or Marillion for that matter...
     
    
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:36
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

How in the @#$!& did Kayo Dot become prog disc of the year? This sample is bloody awful. Please point me in another direction because if this is the best of 2006, then it was a poor year for prog...according to the collaborators.

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I agree. Also, i can't understand what ASHES AGAINST THE GRAIN has to do with prog.

EDIT : Besides these, is a great list
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:36
The Kayo Dot sample is pretty mind blowing. I love it. I'm not really into metal but I really loved it. I'm definetely going to check out that band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:35
If it helps, you can look at the list upside down. LOL Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 20:30
How in the @#$!& did Kayo Dot become prog disc of the year? This sample is bloody awful. Please point me in another direction because if this is the best of 2006, then it was a poor year for prog...according to the collaborators.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 19:27
Next 10 in order:

Zaar - Zaar
Deluge Grander - August In The Urals
Proto-Kaw - The Wait Of Glory
Egyptian Kings - Almagest
Adrian Belew - Side Three
La Maschea DI Cera - Luxade
Green Carnation - Acoustic Verses
Paatos - Silence Of Another Kind
Nebelnest - Zepto
Astrid Proll - Astrid Proll
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then:

Umphrey's McGee - Safety In Numbers
The Flower Kings - Paradox Hotel
Beyond Twilight - For The Love Of Art And The Making
Isis - In The Absense Of Truth
Nemo - Si Partie 1
Red Sparowes - Alone and Unaware
Mastodon - Bloood Mountain
Karda Estra - The Age Of Science and Enlightenment
Ozric Tentacles - The Floor's Too Far Away
Callisto - Noir

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 15:48
Originally posted by Zitro Zitro wrote:

I'm disappointed that great albums such as Green Carnation's "Acoustic Verses" and The Flower King's last album don't even appear when a somewhat dull album like "Wild Orchids" is 3rd place and a good but derivative "A Place in a Quene" manages to be in the top 10 with that awful singer. 
 
Certainly agree with you about Paradox Hotel and the 'dull' Wild Orchids. Otherwise it's not a bad list. Pure Reason Revolution desreve to be in thereClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 15:06
I'm disappointed that great albums such as Green Carnation's "Acoustic Verses" and The Flower King's last album don't even appear when a somewhat dull album like "Wild Orchids" is 3rd place and a good but derivative "A Place in a Quene" manages to be in the top 10 with that awful singer. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 14:41
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Prog Metal is not for me, I'm afraid.

fuxi and memowakeman, Kayo Dot isn't really prog metal. You should listen to the samples. I think they should be in avant-prog, but what do I know?

I'm very happy to see Kayo Dot as number one. With all the reviews, I was afraid TMV would come in first (I'm sorry, I just really don't like what I've heard from it even though I like most of FTM). I can't say much about the other ones, but Kayo Dot deserves it.
    


I've wondered, as well, whether Kayo Dot should be listed under RIO/ Avant Prog.  They are a metal oriented Avant Prog band.  I like them a lot, and I am not usually attracted to metal bands -- it's the avant Prog boy in me, and my jazzy leanings, that likes them.  Estradasphere is another metal/ avant Prog band I like (listed at this site under Rio/ Avant Prog).  Of course there are a number who mix up metal with jazz etc. Ideally, this site would have multiple tags for bands to describe the music better (Kayo Dot, for instance, could be listed under more than one Prog subgenre -- several in fact.).

Much as I like symph prog, I tend to prefer metal influenced bands that are more in the Avant Prog Metal vein than those more in the Symhonic Prog Metal vein (or those bands which prominently mix Neo-Prog aesthetics with metal).

Anyway... I'm pleased to see Kayo Dot in the top ten (though I prefer their debut -- this one is more daring and more avant garde, I suppose.   It's too free-sounding for me -- isn't as tight as I would like).  However, from what I've heard, I like Zaar's album the most.  For a time my favourite was Kotebel's Omphalos, but it palled a bit as I feel the compositional structure seems a bit forced (I know the tricks and there's not quite enough variation for me -- especially considering the earlier albums).  And I'd like more of a spontaneous feel to it.  Nemo's is good too, but much of the vocals don't appeal much to me.

The PFM album is very good, but I still much prefer Storia, Per un Amico, and L'isola (loved the vocals in those too).  It's a "safe" album -- not groundbreaking in the progressive picture, I feel.  It's  a very good effort from a classic band (which happens to be one of my favourite classic Prog bands), but wouldn't make my top five list because for me it's still not the band's best work (my opinion might change over time).

I didn't care for Amputechture, or what I heard of the Frost* album, but I respect that they're highly regarded albums by many.  As for the pure Reason Revolution album... pretty good from what I've heard (even though it sounded more Prog-Related to me), but I don't know the band well enough.

I'd say it's a shame that Zaar didn't get more votes, but it's just a popularity poll amongst a select group of PA members of which most of us don't belong.  It's largely a matter of taste, but I know that I haven't heard enough 2006 alums to have an informed opinion.  I believe my would-be favourites are albums I haven't heard at all.

I do think the "contest" would work better if there was an initial shortlist, and then everyone who is eligible had to hear all of those before making a case for their votes (stream the albums for them if one could get permission from the bands, or labels, to do so).   It would be interesting if the thread where this was discussed could be copied/ pasted into here (publicly) since I'm more interested to hear why someone voted for an album over another (sure it's taste, but criteria are at play too) than to know just what was voted for).  But then that will get discussed here too, so whatever.  No need.  Were there official criteria that collabs/ reviewers were expected to follow when making their choices (beyond it must be Prog that they like)?  If this has been mentioned already, I apologise.

I expect there was some fiece battling between PA staff trying to convince others that their choices were better/ more adventurous/ more progressive/ showed more technical and compositional skill....




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 14:16
I thought Tool's 10,000 Days was fantastic.  It took a little while to get into it, then it got a lot better, especially the second half of the album.  I'm glad it finished 5th.

I agree that Green Carnation's "The Acoustic Verses" was underrated.  I just got it for Christmas, and I love it.  It's very pleasant to listen to. 

And I just finished listening to the new Kayo Dot album for the first time, and I have to say... I don't get it.  I'll listen to it some more, but I don't know if it'll work for me. 

  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 08:06
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I find it boring and tiresome and one of the worst releases of the year.


exactly my thoughts ... about Amputechture!!!
     
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 00:54
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


Neo got the shaft by the collabs!!!

This year we have Marillion, IQ, and possibly Fish, it'll be a good year for Neo in terms of this list hopefully.Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 21:33
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Prog Metal is not for me, I'm afraid.

fuxi and memowakeman, Kayo Dot isn't really prog metal. You should listen to the samples. I think they should be in avant-prog, but what do I know?

I'm very happy to see Kayo Dot as number one. With all the reviews, I was afraid TMV would come in first (I'm sorry, I just really don't like what I've heard from it even though I like most of FTM). I can't say much about the other ones, but Kayo Dot deserves it.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 20:16
Good list but not perfect. 'Paradox Hotel' should be in there & 'Wild Orchids' was probably the most overhyped CD from 2006 & didn't meet a lot of peoples expectations.
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